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the spoke radio for the masses of July 8

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1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

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that a flying disc has been found and is

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now in the possession of the army

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game is rigged change the game changer

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I occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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welcome Fade to Black how you doing

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that's right today it is Tuesday June

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2023. tonight it's Bigfoot all night

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long we have Brett eichenberger with us

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he is the director and executive

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producer of the documentary a flash of

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beauty Bigfoot revealed tonight we're

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going to be discussing some of the

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interviews uh that he did for the movie

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uh and different researchers and

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eyewitnesses and so we're gonna do all

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of that and talk about

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Bigfoot in general tonight I'm very

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excited about this show and everybody

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here knows

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I love my big feet that's right so I

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would like to just get straight to it uh

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all the links for uh Brett are below

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we've got them on social media and over

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on the website and I would like to

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welcome for the first time to fade to

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black Brett eichenberger there he is

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I was just moving my mouth I wasn't

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really even saying anything

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um I'm doing fantastic I'm doing great

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Jimmy thanks for having me on your show

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man it it's it's so great to have you

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here let's get the First Time guest

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disclaimer out of the way okay which is

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this Brett it's just you and I sitting

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on my couch having a conversation as

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friends and where the conversation

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starts it starts where it ends it ends

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but we're gonna end his friends there

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you go all right accept click you gotta

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um can I start here

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I I I'm just gonna go there how many

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anywhere like I'm interviewing Conan

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you know I have heard that going all the

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way back to high school I'm not nearly

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as tall and I don't nearly have as much

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I don't have the the Conan pompadour or

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whatever it is he has

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which seems to get older and or bigger

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and bigger as he uh right right yeah I

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I'm not planning a flag I'm not I'm not

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uh discovering something right now

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you've heard this before I've heard this

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before but you know my wife actually

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gets mistaken for Scarlett Johansson all

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the time so oh hey so hey so hey you

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I guess guess who got the better end of

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that deal yeah yeah exactly and yeah and

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uh no offense to Conan I love him I

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think he's great not good you know what

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he he probably would agree with us all

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um I uh I kind of want to start here

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um uh I've I've talked about the movie

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and it's great to you know to actually

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have you here you know to go in depth

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about it but I have talked about it and

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talked about it wow the universe has a

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strange way of connecting dots you just

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put the vibe out there and then

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way I run my life but here's the thing

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um uh in the documentary

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only uh bid for documentaries but

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documentaries in general it's really

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well done to really well thought out but

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conspiracy fun stuff on this show right

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physics I do UFOs and E.T Bigfoot right

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ghost life after death

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time travel right all these things and

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and I love all of these subjects but

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everybody in the country and in the

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Pacific Northwest has a Bigfoot story

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everybody everybody's got a Bigfoot

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story and you can uh uh there's a moment

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um what if he goes so I just went in and

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and and he said uh what he said the five

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people had Bigfoot stories yeah right

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yeah yeah in the airport that was Daryl

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um Bigfoot is is is it really really I'm

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Bigfoot Community is strong isn't it

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it's huge it's huge and and just to kind

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of extrapolate on what you're talking

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about Jimmy there's a name for for what

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you're describing and Simian Dr Simeon

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hi and you haven't talked to uh you've

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got to he's amazing you wrote a book

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called Dark Matter monsters but Dr

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Simeon Hein um is a sociologist and he's

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paranormal Bigfoot we'll talk about that

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later but Dr Simeon Hein describes what

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occurring but it's not really in in the

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their Bigfoot experiences and when we

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narrative filmmaking background

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um and so people thought well you know

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you really want to kind of torpedo your

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you know that's kind of silly I mean

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this thing is kind of goofy right and I

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said no actually there's a lot of

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substance to it

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um and and I and I said this to a lot of

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people you know my in-laws for instance

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were like this is kind of embarrassing

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and I said I said you know Bob it's only

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a matter of time before you meet

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somebody that's had an experience and he

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you know there's a there's a local judge

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that had had a Bigfoot experience

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somebody with credibility but the the

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point is is that we've heard countless

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and he said to never ask about it again

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so-and-so saw this and they would never

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are constantly your hunters or whoever

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will see something and they won't tell

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his wife

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of the ridicule but the truth is is that

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just like you said everybody's got a

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Bigfoot story and we're trying to get

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them to the point where it's like okay

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we got to start talking about this stuff

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right now this is important it it went

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um uh all right I'm uncomfortable saying

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this but it's it's just a fact

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um I was a co-host of of Coast to Coast

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AM for almost seven years okay I just

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um you know I'm hosting Coast life is

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good uh Fade to Black I got my TV shows

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and you know and yeah and and things and

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so I go to you and I'm sure you've been

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um but uh up in Northern California uh

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between uh just south of the Oregon

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border there's a a Bigfoot uh uh gift

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shop and it's it's just

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a thousand wooden statues in the in the

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front parking lot no exaggeration right

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it's just ginormous place so I go

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and I'm walking around and I'm cocky

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right and I'm waiting to be recognized

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you know let's do some selfies and and

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that kind of stuff and and I asked for

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the manager of the store

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and I wanted to tell the manager of the

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store hey man you know it's me Jimmy

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here you know and and so the manager

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uh a nice nice story yeah thank you man

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how long you been here uh 35 years

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really you got a Bigfoot story he goes I

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do of course I do yeah okay all right I

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said uh I'm Timmy church he goes okay

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he goes what's that

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wow that's that's the Bigfoot Community

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right where you know Coast to Coast UFOs

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you know life after death Consciousness

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you know all of that stuff that's not

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what the Bigfoot Community is about

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and to get that was my taste of it I

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think that they're starting to mix a

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little bit right yes but the Bigfoot

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Community is okay just being left alone

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they are doing their own thing and I'm

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not far off am I

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no no you're not you're not but you know

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we have found through our research

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and just through to the countless

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interviews that we've done and a lot of

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a lot of interviews have happened

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um outside of the documentary because

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we'll do pre-interviews and whatnot and

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sometimes we'll decide that somebody's

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not right for the film or we'll hear

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from somebody after the film and we're

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constantly getting stories every day we

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get a story from from a fan or somebody

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that's seen the movie from across the

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world actually I mean we get we get

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stories from people everywhere

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um and the tide is kind of starting to

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change and that's what our sequel is

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about is about the Paranormal attributes

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that a lot of people are experiencing

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with Bigfoot

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um and we heard a lot of this from the

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initial interviews from a lot of the

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folks that are in the first film and so

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we we quickly realized that we were

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going to need to make a sequel that just

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tackled this whole paranormal

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idea so so what you're talking about you

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know the UFO is the Consciousness

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everything quantum mechanics the whole

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nine yards it all involves Bigfoot it

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all involves Bigfoot and it's you know

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our film isn't going to come out until

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October but I can sit here and tell you

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right now that it's about to get really

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really interesting

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there is

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um okay let's shift gears for a second

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before we really jump in uh to this film

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I live in Hollywood right I'm in

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Palmdale but you know I'm here in Los

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Angeles I'm in the business this is what

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I do film television you know hosting

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and all that stuff

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um and being in Hollywood uh I I I

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appreciate the aesthetic I appreciate

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the editing I appreciate the framing I

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appreciate the color the colorist the

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approach I I appreciate the lens

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selection I appreciate a good screenplay

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and a good script and all of that I'm

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not necessarily just looking at a movie

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for entertainment value right sure I'm

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I'm I get

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what you've done here

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is even the title of uh the film

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suggests what you're going to get here

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this is a treatment of Bigfoot that

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hasn't been done before

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um both uh to the eyes to the approach

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and to the emotion everything why uh and

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how did you come up with that idea and

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that approach to filmmaking with such as

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you know a delicate subject like this

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well it yeah that's kind of it's kind of

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a long answer to a certain extent but

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I'll keep it short I mean part of it a

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lot of it starts off with my fascination

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with Steven Spielberg and going back to

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being five years old and watching E.T in

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the theater and knowing then in the

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first grade that this is what I wanted

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to do with the rest of my life is I

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wanted to tell stories that that were

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paranormal in nature and emotional in

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nature and and

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ET is the perfect example of that and it

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wasn't shortly thereafter that I

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discovered Close Encounters of the Third

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Kind

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which I believe is one of the most

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important movies ever made and and and

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every

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disclosure moment that comes out that

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movie gets more and more and more and

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more important and so when you know I've

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been fascinated with Bigfoot since I can

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can remember and

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the same goes with my wife Jill Roman

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Snyder who is the co-producer on the

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project and a screenwriter she also had

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a fascination with Bigfoot but we have

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an emotional connection to Bigfoot and

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we haven't seen or we didn't see any of

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the any documentaries out there that did

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have an emotional connection to Bigfoot

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because the thing about it is Bigfoot

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has been sensationalized by these TV

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shows these Expedition Bigfoot Alaskan

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killer Bigfoot

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um Finding Bigfoot I think there's a

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place for those shows and I think those

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shows are great and we watch those but

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there's a lot more entertainment value

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um in those shows you know they they

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package them in kind of like these these

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horror films and from the folks that

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we've been talking to going back to 2012

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we weren't hearing we were hearing

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people you know hearing stories of

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people that were scared of course they

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were scared but we weren't hearing about

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aggressive Bigfoot you know tearing

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people apart and you know we weren't

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hearing stories about monsters we were

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hearing stories about intelligent beings

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and so when we decided to do a flash of

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beauty I I explicitly said we need to

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get into the psychology of this because

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some of the best proof of their

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existence

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is the trauma that is left afterwards in

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the wake of their existence and we see

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this in the alien abductee Community I

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mean these people are scarred and

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medical science will show a scar on the

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brain

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actually see a scar from post-traumatic

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stress disorder

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and and what's so fascinating about

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Bigfoot and what Spielberg got right in

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Close Encounters of the Third Kind is

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that once these people have a sighting

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whether it's 15 seconds or 15 minutes

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they become obsessed with Bigfoot for

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the rest of their lives they need to see

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it again

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and so I became thoroughly fascinated by

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that and that's why we interviewed it

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you know one of the one of America's

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greatest psychologists Dr Michael Adams

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a Yale graduate who didn't scoff at

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being in our film

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you know what I mean and and why we

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interviewed a hypnotist

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um Doug Meacham and so you know I really

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wanted to get into that you know and

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then we found we somehow we found Daryl

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Wilson in Vernal Utah who

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the guy was he literally had weeks to

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live yes you know and it say and it

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saved his life and I don't know that

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there there was any sort of metaphysical

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healing that happened there but it gave

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him a newfound purpose

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you know and he's made friends all over

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the world through through his encounter

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so there's something that's very very

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positive that's happening with these

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these encounters there's there are

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things that are very traumatic there's

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things that are scary but we we have yet

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to interview anybody that's been

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physically harmed

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by one of these things

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there is

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um uh a theme

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that

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um is suggested and it's really to do

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this in a documentary

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um it's it's a challenge because the

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documentary is going to edit itself

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eventually right okay this is more of a

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film

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and so and and what the theme that is

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woven through is that we are dealing

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with Hyper intelligent extremely

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sentient beings here that think

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may be better than us

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right there certainly seem to be

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outsmarting us yes right yeah and and

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you've you've this tapestry of this

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theme that is woven through

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um and hearing the emotional experiences

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uh from everybody whether it's law

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enforcement or just you know somebody

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with a trail cam video that that is

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what's going on uh that this is an

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extremely intelligent creature right

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absolutely a hundred percent I mean and

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we get into that even more so in the

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sequel

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um the intelligence of these beings is

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I can say this pretty pretty

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um emphatically actually for lack of a

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better word the intelligence of these

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beings is mind-blowing and they and and

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I personally believe through my

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experiences and I know you know the crew

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uh the rest of us share these same

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sentiments is that they they have an

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intelligence that um surpasses us as far

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as the knowledge of the universe as far

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as what they're capable of what their

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capabilities are you know which is one

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of the reasons why you know you can't

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find them you know if we were dealing

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with a you know

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a primate or some sort of an advanced

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gorilla if you will then we would be

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getting them on cameras all the time

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but they're very well aware of what

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these things are and what they're

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capable of doing

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um and they know that a vocalization

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which we're capturing all the time

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people are constantly hearing them they

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know vocalization only goes so far

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but a visual is something that's

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entirely different and we've seen that

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from the Patterson gimlet film so yeah I

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mean and the other the other part about

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their intelligence and and another sign

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of of great intelligence is that they

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have a sense of humor and and these

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these stories of them you know kind of

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clowning around go all the way back

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hundreds of years with native tribes

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um but we've got we've got witnesses

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that talk about the funny things they do

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and the sequel we talk about the gifting

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and how personal the gifting is and and

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how catered it is to the individual

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that's having those interactions so it's

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it's really it's really kind of

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something special to be discovering this

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being that's literally living right

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under our nose

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um to do a documentary that you know all

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the other Bigfoot documentary UFO

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documentaries whatever right

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the big cases the normal things it's so

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repetitive it's it's it's wash rinse

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repeat right yeah and and and you you

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put this together you also were the

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editor on this film and so The

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Sensational uh you know jump shots right

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are not what actually there's there's

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two moments in the film where I went

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we'll get back to that but yeah but

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that's

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um how difficult is it to to edit it

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with that process of of dealing with

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um uh presenting knowledge to the

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audience instead of bubble gum driving

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theater shock stuff

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um for this particular project it wasn't

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too difficult I mean you know at the end

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of the day we need to be able to

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entertain you know we need to be

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entertainers to a certain extent so

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there has to be this mixture that's

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woven in I mean I don't want first and

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foremost I don't want anybody to

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question any of the people that were

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brave enough to Bear their souls on

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camera

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you know that's what's most important to

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me and that's that's why we chose to

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have them look directly into the camera

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because we wanted it to feel like it was

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a one-on-one conversation

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um but you know I mean Larry Turner who

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who you might have been talking about

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you know he has a hand come up through

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the tent and it cradles his head and the

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thumb comes underneath his chin you know

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Larry Lives four or five miles away from

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me I mean that guy is as honest and as

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genuine as you will of a person as you

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will ever meet

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um but that's frightening I mean I can't

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imagine you know this was his fifth or

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sixth time being around them but I can't

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imagine being in in Larry's position and

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so you have that's a moment you have to

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make scary

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because it's nothing nothing there's no

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there's no other way to describe it

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right so you know we we've got to have

532
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we've got to have those moments I want

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you know I want I want people to be

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enthralled by it I don't want it to be a

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slow moving sometimes documentaries can

536
00:22:19,970 --> 00:22:18,000
be very slow and boring and other times

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they can just you know have a jump just

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to have a jump and

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if it doesn't serve any purpose as far

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as moving the story forward then then

541
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what's it doing in the film you know

542
00:22:34,490 --> 00:22:32,340
now uh let's talk about Rob Moorhead for

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a second mm-hmm

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um

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fascinating I mean just his background

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and and his story he's just a

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fascinating uh person in general but I I

548
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think that I you've sat down with him I

549
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haven't yet I've wanted him on the show

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I've just never reached out but here's

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Ron uh his evidence goes back to the

552
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:06,080
early 1970s 71-72 and and I think

553
00:23:13,010 --> 00:23:10,320
he was on the skeptic side of the fence

554
00:23:14,930 --> 00:23:13,020
I I just didn't you know and I think

555
00:23:17,690 --> 00:23:14,940
everything caught him by surprise yeah

556
00:23:20,570 --> 00:23:17,700
but he ended up doing a lot like the

557
00:23:24,590 --> 00:23:20,580
Patterson gimlin film as he captured

558
00:23:27,049 --> 00:23:24,600
something remarkable and and it's those

559
00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:27,059
recordings and I used to go and listen

560
00:23:32,510 --> 00:23:30,120
to those recordings over and over again

561
00:23:36,529 --> 00:23:32,520
I I'll never forget the first time that

562
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:36,539
I heard them when you first heard Ron uh

563
00:23:42,110 --> 00:23:39,360
morehead's recordings of let's just call

564
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,120
it conversation it could be fighting it

565
00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:43,919
could be telling jokes I have no idea

566
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:47,460
right what

567
00:23:51,049 --> 00:23:48,840
um and I'm not making light of it

568
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:51,059
because it's very serious stuff but uh

569
00:23:54,830 --> 00:23:52,559
what what did you make of it when you

570
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,840
first heard uh the Bigfoot conversations

571
00:23:59,630 --> 00:23:56,640
you know that's an interesting question

572
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,640
Jimmy I first heard uh Ron Moorhead on

573
00:24:04,130 --> 00:24:01,679
Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell back in

574
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,140
the 90s and I mean you know like like I

575
00:24:07,850 --> 00:24:05,760
said I mean I've been a huge fan of this

576
00:24:10,370 --> 00:24:07,860
stuff since I was a little kid and when

577
00:24:11,690 --> 00:24:10,380
I was in college I delivered newspapers

578
00:24:13,010 --> 00:24:11,700
um so in the middle of the night every

579
00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:13,020
night I was listening to Coast to Coast

580
00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:14,700
for four or five hours as I tossed

581
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:17,039
newspapers out the window and sped

582
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:19,200
through people's neighborhoods and I

583
00:24:24,110 --> 00:24:21,360
will never forget listening to Ron

584
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,120
Moorhead on Coast to Coast AM and never

585
00:24:27,470 --> 00:24:25,919
forget it's like it was yesterday even

586
00:24:29,630 --> 00:24:27,480
though it was almost 30 years ago and I

587
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:29,640
I remember thinking to myself hearing

588
00:24:34,490 --> 00:24:32,400
those recording is thinking this is

589
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,500
just crazy

590
00:24:39,230 --> 00:24:36,480
you know like this is crit like who is

591
00:24:42,110 --> 00:24:39,240
this guy like it just sounded so out of

592
00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:42,120
left field when I first heard them I'll

593
00:24:46,010 --> 00:24:44,220
never forget that feeling

594
00:24:47,390 --> 00:24:46,020
um and now I have since heard those

595
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:47,400
voices

596
00:24:52,970 --> 00:24:50,400
for real in the wild

597
00:24:54,409 --> 00:24:52,980
um I've heard that Samurai chatter and

598
00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:54,419
man if you ever needed something to

599
00:24:58,669 --> 00:24:56,760
stand your hair up on head on on the

600
00:25:04,850 --> 00:24:58,679
back of your neck

601
00:25:07,730 --> 00:25:04,860
it is a weird weird sound you almost can

602
00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:07,740
hear you almost can understand it it's

603
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:09,679
like yes

604
00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:12,240
right I mean you listen to it more and

605
00:25:18,590 --> 00:25:14,940
it it uh I almost

606
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:18,600
Moorhead you listen to Moorhead more and

607
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:22,320
and you can hear the inflections and the

608
00:25:27,710 --> 00:25:25,919
conversation and the intention and you

609
00:25:30,409 --> 00:25:27,720
almost know what they're talking about

610
00:25:32,450 --> 00:25:30,419
it is a language yeah it's definitely

611
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,460
language it's kind of like for anybody

612
00:25:36,169 --> 00:25:33,840
that's lived in an apartment Within

613
00:25:37,310 --> 00:25:36,179
Walls and here the name if the neighbors

614
00:25:39,169 --> 00:25:37,320
are fighting or something like that and

615
00:25:41,090 --> 00:25:39,179
you just hear like the you know the bass

616
00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:41,100
or the you know it's that muted kind of

617
00:25:45,950 --> 00:25:43,500
like it's like the Snoopy teacher you

618
00:25:47,930 --> 00:25:45,960
know you know almost

619
00:25:51,289 --> 00:25:47,940
um but you but you can tell that there's

620
00:25:53,950 --> 00:25:51,299
emotion in their voices for sure

621
00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:53,960
it's just it's they're really incredible

622
00:25:59,810 --> 00:25:56,820
now Scott Nelson

623
00:26:03,070 --> 00:25:59,820
um uh who is uh who's a linguist right

624
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,080
voice Naval linguist yeah

625
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:05,520
wow and

626
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:08,840
um tell us how did you find Scott

627
00:26:14,649 --> 00:26:12,240
and and if you could give us some

628
00:26:17,930 --> 00:26:14,659
insight on his opinions of the language

629
00:26:20,750 --> 00:26:17,940
so okay so Scott Scott uh we got in

630
00:26:23,210 --> 00:26:20,760
touch with Scott through Ron and um

631
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:23,220
Scott uh this was I wanted to be

632
00:26:27,649 --> 00:26:26,159
interviewed we interviewed Scott in 2021

633
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:27,659
um so this was kind of still in the

634
00:26:32,690 --> 00:26:30,000
pandemic to a certain extent and Scott

635
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:32,700
had been teaching at a at a school

636
00:26:37,070 --> 00:26:35,520
um like a military Prep School

637
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:37,080
um and he was teaching I don't remember

638
00:26:39,710 --> 00:26:38,400
exactly what he was teaching but he was

639
00:26:41,649 --> 00:26:39,720
teaching you know boys in a military

640
00:26:45,769 --> 00:26:41,659
prep school just outside of Kansas City

641
00:26:47,630 --> 00:26:45,779
and so we went to Kansas City and

642
00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:47,640
um he's he's living on a house he's

643
00:26:51,289 --> 00:26:49,740
living on a sailboat in this Lake in

644
00:26:53,690 --> 00:26:51,299
Kansas City and so we go out and we'd

645
00:26:55,130 --> 00:26:53,700
see him and we had a great time and

646
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,140
that's you you see him in the in the

647
00:26:58,490 --> 00:26:57,120
film you know and he's he's like during

648
00:27:00,049 --> 00:26:58,500
the pandemic he like grilled his hair

649
00:27:01,730 --> 00:27:00,059
and he grew up here and he just if you

650
00:27:03,649 --> 00:27:01,740
Google old pictures of Scott Nelson he

651
00:27:05,870 --> 00:27:03,659
looked totally different so when we

652
00:27:08,210 --> 00:27:05,880
arrived you know to his place it was

653
00:27:10,669 --> 00:27:08,220
just Jill and I and it was like is is

654
00:27:12,669 --> 00:27:10,679
are you Scott you're not the guy I saw

655
00:27:14,930 --> 00:27:12,679
on the internet but um

656
00:27:16,730 --> 00:27:14,940
it was it was cool we had a great night

657
00:27:18,529 --> 00:27:16,740
that night but man is that guy smart

658
00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:18,539
he's brilliant

659
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:20,220
um I don't know how many languages he

660
00:27:23,630 --> 00:27:21,120
knows

661
00:27:26,690 --> 00:27:23,640
um I think it's nine you know any in

662
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:26,700
very very complex languages like Farsi

663
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,039
you know and I know from past experience

664
00:27:32,810 --> 00:27:30,960
you know I did a little bit of work as a

665
00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:32,820
defense contractor at the military I I

666
00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:34,620
know what it takes to be somebody in his

667
00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:37,140
position to be a naval crypto linguist

668
00:27:41,210 --> 00:27:39,419
you know the military has no need for

669
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:41,220
guys that aren't Pros that aren't good

670
00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:42,480
that aren't smart that aren't

671
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:43,740
intelligent you know when you're talking

672
00:27:46,669 --> 00:27:44,640
about

673
00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:46,679
military stuff Warfare that kind of

674
00:27:52,970 --> 00:27:48,260
stuff they need guys that are on point

675
00:27:56,029 --> 00:27:52,980
and Scott is that guy I and he knows

676
00:27:57,769 --> 00:27:56,039
exactly what he's listening to he knows

677
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,779
exactly what it takes to vocalize

678
00:28:02,810 --> 00:27:59,760
something like that he knows exactly

679
00:28:04,909 --> 00:28:02,820
what the human vocal range is capable of

680
00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:04,919
he knows all of that stuff

681
00:28:09,529 --> 00:28:07,620
and when he first heard those sounds

682
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:09,539
I mean he literally dropped everything

683
00:28:15,529 --> 00:28:13,440
to find out exactly what it was how it

684
00:28:17,149 --> 00:28:15,539
was being made and he's since been you

685
00:28:18,649 --> 00:28:17,159
know he and Ron have since been up to

686
00:28:20,390 --> 00:28:18,659
Sierra Camp

687
00:28:22,909 --> 00:28:20,400
a few times he told us some crazy

688
00:28:24,529 --> 00:28:22,919
stories about his trips up there so I

689
00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:24,539
mean I don't I don't doubt their

690
00:28:31,789 --> 00:28:28,200
authenticity one bit

691
00:28:34,490 --> 00:28:31,799
the um uh in in the beginning of the

692
00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:34,500
film uh

693
00:28:40,430 --> 00:28:37,100
Mount Adams is brought up

694
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:40,440
and uh I've been there many times and I

695
00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:43,919
have had I've never I've never seen

696
00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:45,440
Bigfoot

697
00:28:52,669 --> 00:28:50,460
I've seen Footprints yeah oh okay and

698
00:28:54,409 --> 00:28:52,679
maybe after the break I'll pull up to

699
00:28:57,769 --> 00:28:54,419
the audience is going to go man if we

700
00:29:00,490 --> 00:28:57,779
have to see these one more time but

701
00:29:03,409 --> 00:29:00,500
um but I was I was kind of on the fence

702
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:03,419
before that I've had Jeffrey Meldrum on

703
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:05,820
the show and any Bigfoot people on the

704
00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:08,340
show but when you see and that was at

705
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,580
Mount Adams right and these giant deep

706
00:29:16,010 --> 00:29:13,919
Footprints in this field it was crazy it

707
00:29:18,769 --> 00:29:16,020
was it was nuts

708
00:29:22,029 --> 00:29:18,779
um and that caught my attention why why

709
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,039
do you think the Pacific Northwest

710
00:29:26,649 --> 00:29:24,720
obviously it's trees and it's mountains

711
00:29:30,409 --> 00:29:26,659
and there's less population

712
00:29:32,810 --> 00:29:30,419
but that's where most of the sightings

713
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:32,820
are and a lot of the history is

714
00:29:36,350 --> 00:29:34,559
established

715
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:36,360
um have you had your own experience and

716
00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:39,600
why do you think that is the area you

717
00:29:46,269 --> 00:29:41,640
know on this planet they're everywhere

718
00:29:50,090 --> 00:29:46,279
but but Northwest we've

719
00:29:51,769 --> 00:29:50,100
myself but we have had experiences we've

720
00:29:54,049 --> 00:29:51,779
heard sounds

721
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:54,059
um the samurai chatter I heard was

722
00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:56,159
actually in the midwest

723
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:58,260
um but we've heard we've heard tree

724
00:30:01,789 --> 00:30:00,000
knocking

725
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:01,799
um you know you name it we found Prince

726
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,320
ourselves you know it's hard after

727
00:30:10,190 --> 00:30:08,640
before starting this documentary I

728
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:10,200
thought the Pacific Northwest was the

729
00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:12,240
only place the Bigfoot you know maybe

730
00:30:16,970 --> 00:30:14,700
maybe the the Pacific West Coast all the

731
00:30:18,769 --> 00:30:16,980
way up to Alaska and

732
00:30:20,029 --> 00:30:18,779
um California Northern California but

733
00:30:22,370 --> 00:30:20,039
now I'm convinced their their

734
00:30:25,549 --> 00:30:22,380
populations that are really strong

735
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:25,559
everywhere across the country

736
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:27,360
um you know we get we get stories from

737
00:30:33,289 --> 00:30:31,200
Texas from New England from Ohio has is

738
00:30:36,529 --> 00:30:33,299
like sixth or seventh in the nation in

739
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:36,539
sightings which is which blows my mind

740
00:30:39,889 --> 00:30:37,919
um but you're right I mean Oregon

741
00:30:42,350 --> 00:30:39,899
Washington or consistently in the top

742
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:42,360
five states in the union

743
00:30:46,669 --> 00:30:43,200
um

744
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,679
you know is is to why there's so many

745
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:48,480
things here

746
00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:50,760
um I've got a lot of different theories

747
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:52,980
there's some really really interesting

748
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:55,440
stuff happening right now in Oregon I

749
00:31:00,590 --> 00:30:58,320
mean like bizarre stuff

750
00:31:03,230 --> 00:31:00,600
um happening down in southern Oregon and

751
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:03,240
I think I think it really has to do you

752
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,039
know and people will say like I think

753
00:31:08,810 --> 00:31:07,440
the more science-based folks and I'm not

754
00:31:10,490 --> 00:31:08,820
saying I'm not science-based but but

755
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:10,500
people will say well they've got to eat

756
00:31:13,549 --> 00:31:12,000
you know they've got a row they've got

757
00:31:14,990 --> 00:31:13,559
to have a source of water and all of

758
00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:15,000
that is true

759
00:31:19,490 --> 00:31:17,460
but I personally think that it might

760
00:31:21,710 --> 00:31:19,500
also have something to do with you know

761
00:31:24,169 --> 00:31:21,720
mineral contents

762
00:31:26,269 --> 00:31:24,179
um you know there's this idea that there

763
00:31:29,210 --> 00:31:26,279
you'll find them more around like lakes

764
00:31:31,789 --> 00:31:29,220
and areas with granite and

765
00:31:33,769 --> 00:31:31,799
um and whatnot so you know I think that

766
00:31:35,210 --> 00:31:33,779
might have something to do with it um

767
00:31:36,830 --> 00:31:35,220
there's always been these I shouldn't

768
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:36,840
say always but these there's been these

769
00:31:41,690 --> 00:31:39,840
theories that UFOs

770
00:31:42,889 --> 00:31:41,700
um Mount Adams is a great example that

771
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:42,899
UFOs

772
00:31:48,289 --> 00:31:46,320
um are attracted to volcanoes and of

773
00:31:50,930 --> 00:31:48,299
course the Cascade Range is one volcano

774
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,940
after another you know and and these

775
00:31:54,529 --> 00:31:52,559
aren't dormant volcanoes these are

776
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:54,539
active volcanoes Mount Hood is active

777
00:31:59,210 --> 00:31:56,640
Rainier is active St Helens is the

778
00:32:02,690 --> 00:31:59,220
famous One atoms is these are these are

779
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,700
volcanoes that that could blow any given

780
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:04,080
moment really

781
00:32:08,690 --> 00:32:04,799
um

782
00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:08,700
and so that that could be part of it I'm

783
00:32:13,010 --> 00:32:11,220
not I'm not quite sure but um

784
00:32:14,810 --> 00:32:13,020
the one thing that I can tell you the

785
00:32:16,909 --> 00:32:14,820
one thing that I have heard which is a

786
00:32:18,590 --> 00:32:16,919
little off topic is that I've heard

787
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,600
about the different Clans or the

788
00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:20,640
different tribes we'll take on different

789
00:32:25,310 --> 00:32:22,700
personalities around different mountains

790
00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:25,320
you know so so I've heard that the ones

791
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:28,500
by Mount St Helens are pretty grumpy and

792
00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:30,000
pretty aggressive

793
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,340
uh whereas the ones near Mount Hood are

794
00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:34,799
kind of more docile so on and so forth

795
00:32:37,730 --> 00:32:36,120
um

796
00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:37,740
but yeah I mean that's a great question

797
00:32:42,409 --> 00:32:40,679
but I I think they're everywhere I mean

798
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:42,419
they're in the Oregon Coast Range which

799
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:45,840
is not a volcanic now okay

800
00:32:49,850 --> 00:32:48,720
um so much to discuss tonight but this

801
00:32:55,070 --> 00:32:49,860
is

802
00:32:58,250 --> 00:32:55,080
yeah

803
00:33:00,590 --> 00:32:58,260
when we talk about

804
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,600
um and I'm a grown man and I'm about to

805
00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:03,120
say what I'm about to say with a with a

806
00:33:06,590 --> 00:33:04,620
straight face

807
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:06,600
all the discussion about you know where

808
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:10,080
where bodies bones DNA you know where's

809
00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:16,549
and then we have the Patterson gimlin

810
00:33:23,389 --> 00:33:21,960
film right and you can't have one you

811
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:23,399
know and and stay in that direction

812
00:33:31,789 --> 00:33:27,600
because that eliminates the woo-woo or

813
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:31,799
the supernatural aspect to this but the

814
00:33:39,769 --> 00:33:34,559
more that I look at this what pushes me

815
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:39,779
out of my sensible zone right am I it's

816
00:33:43,810 --> 00:33:42,000
just a species that's avoiding humans

817
00:33:47,409 --> 00:33:43,820
that's all it is

818
00:33:51,529 --> 00:33:47,419
to something more

819
00:33:57,409 --> 00:33:54,590
um coming and going as they please while

820
00:34:01,490 --> 00:33:57,419
they are here they leave Footprints but

821
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:01,500
they have the ability of of appearing

822
00:34:08,290 --> 00:34:05,279
and disappearing very quickly and the

823
00:34:11,329 --> 00:34:08,300
lack of evidence being left behind

824
00:34:14,990 --> 00:34:11,339
maybe because it's something more

825
00:34:18,770 --> 00:34:15,000
Supernatural now am I crazy am I talking

826
00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:18,780
crazy but that makes more sense to me

827
00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:22,260
now than it's just a species avoiding

828
00:34:26,990 --> 00:34:25,020
humans that you're you're exactly right

829
00:34:29,869 --> 00:34:27,000
Jimmy and this is the conclusion that

830
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:29,879
we've come to uh through our process and

831
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:31,440
when I first heard about the woo side of

832
00:34:36,349 --> 00:34:33,839
things it was from Ron Moorhead himself

833
00:34:37,849 --> 00:34:36,359
I was sitting across from at a picnic

834
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:37,859
table at a at a function called

835
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:40,320
Beechwood and he's like well you know we

836
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:42,000
tracked footprints in the snow and they

837
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:43,679
just stopped and they didn't turn around

838
00:34:47,869 --> 00:34:45,119
right

839
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,879
heard that from people now

840
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:49,440
and how many times I've heard people

841
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,119
talk about them cloaking you know we

842
00:34:55,970 --> 00:34:53,760
have a whole segment in the sequel with

843
00:34:59,089 --> 00:34:55,980
um in fact I showed some footage to Eric

844
00:35:01,130 --> 00:34:59,099
Bard from Skinwalker Ranch and had him

845
00:35:03,950 --> 00:35:01,140
look at it to get his assessment

846
00:35:05,450 --> 00:35:03,960
and his theory is incredible wait till

847
00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:05,460
you hear his theory I'm going to keep it

848
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:06,740
secret but

849
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:09,839
there there is a component there that's

850
00:35:14,750 --> 00:35:12,480
undeniable and and the most important

851
00:35:17,630 --> 00:35:14,760
thing is you cannot you can't just throw

852
00:35:20,810 --> 00:35:17,640
out the data because it doesn't fit your

853
00:35:21,650 --> 00:35:20,820
Paradigm you can't just toss it out you

854
00:35:23,569 --> 00:35:21,660
know

855
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,579
um and and I think there's a lot of

856
00:35:27,950 --> 00:35:25,920
people that are afraid of the fact that

857
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:27,960
they might be paranormal or woo or

858
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:30,720
whatever but what I want to do what we

859
00:35:34,490 --> 00:35:32,640
want to do is we want to we want to try

860
00:35:36,349 --> 00:35:34,500
and develop science around that because

861
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:36,359
there is a science to it

862
00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:39,599
and what we're finding out and again I

863
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:42,900
highly suggest folks go and read Dark

864
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:45,119
Matter Monsters by Dr Simeon Hein who's

865
00:35:48,829 --> 00:35:46,800
somebody you really need to have on the

866
00:35:51,470 --> 00:35:48,839
show he's a fascinating guy and Simeon

867
00:35:54,530 --> 00:35:51,480
Hein breaks it down as to how how they

868
00:35:56,210 --> 00:35:54,540
could be quote unquote paranormal

869
00:35:58,609 --> 00:35:56,220
um and it comes down to Quantum

870
00:36:02,210 --> 00:35:58,619
Mechanics it comes down to Relic

871
00:36:04,670 --> 00:36:02,220
neutrinos and cold fusion and all kinds

872
00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:04,680
of really really strange

873
00:36:09,530 --> 00:36:07,140
science that we're only beginning to

874
00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:09,540
understand but what's really fascinating

875
00:36:13,490 --> 00:36:12,180
to us is that this is the scene these

876
00:36:16,670 --> 00:36:13,500
are the same types of things we're

877
00:36:19,130 --> 00:36:16,680
hearing with UFOs with close encounters

878
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:19,140
with some of the things that the UFOs

879
00:36:22,370 --> 00:36:20,640
are doing you know these are

880
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:22,380
technologies that are bending and

881
00:36:25,970 --> 00:36:24,000
warping space time

882
00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:25,980
and some of these

883
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:28,200
um situations where a Bigfoot will just

884
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:31,680
disappear or it'll just cloak are very

885
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,560
similar a great case in point Jimmy is

886
00:36:38,450 --> 00:36:36,720
this this Las Vegas alien thing that

887
00:36:41,089 --> 00:36:38,460
everybody's talking about

888
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,099
and um which I for the record I think is

889
00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:43,440
100 authentic and one of the things that

890
00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:45,000
really kind of set me on fire was

891
00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:47,820
hearing this this young man Angel talk

892
00:36:52,370 --> 00:36:50,760
about how he looked at them and they

893
00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:52,380
were blurry

894
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:55,140
and I'm like whoa I mean I literally got

895
00:36:58,370 --> 00:36:56,640
the chills when he said that I was like

896
00:37:00,290 --> 00:36:58,380
you know I was like this happened that's

897
00:37:02,270 --> 00:37:00,300
all I needed to know and the reason why

898
00:37:05,569 --> 00:37:02,280
is because it's exactly what people

899
00:37:08,810 --> 00:37:05,579
describe when they see a Bigfoot cloak

900
00:37:11,210 --> 00:37:08,820
it's blurry it's it's there but they're

901
00:37:12,829 --> 00:37:11,220
somehow changing their their wavelength

902
00:37:14,530 --> 00:37:12,839
their vibrations I don't know I'm

903
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:14,540
nowhere near a

904
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:18,960
physicist or scientist I'm a filmmaker

905
00:37:22,609 --> 00:37:19,680
um

906
00:37:24,170 --> 00:37:22,619
but Bigfoot is doing the same exact

907
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,180
thing they're going blurry we have

908
00:37:29,210 --> 00:37:26,640
footage of it in the sequel

909
00:37:31,550 --> 00:37:29,220
um very very good footage so

910
00:37:34,190 --> 00:37:31,560
it's there it's it's real I mean it's I

911
00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:34,200
just think it's really happening and for

912
00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:39,060
me when uh I looked at these prints I'm

913
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,920
not going to get into the story

914
00:37:44,569 --> 00:37:42,960
I'm just not going to do that but but

915
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:44,579
there were there were four prints in

916
00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:47,760
this field at Mount Adams right Big

917
00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:52,260
Field big grass field right and these

918
00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:54,060
four Footprints and they were left right

919
00:37:58,609 --> 00:37:56,040
left right they were like six feet apart

920
00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:58,619
and they were in an arc right like

921
00:38:03,890 --> 00:38:01,680
turning to the right

922
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:03,900
standing there I've got a documentary

923
00:38:09,609 --> 00:38:06,720
film crew with me uh shooting something

924
00:38:13,790 --> 00:38:09,619
else this was an accident

925
00:38:15,770 --> 00:38:13,800
wow so anyway so I went well wait a

926
00:38:18,290 --> 00:38:15,780
minute man let's clear this out

927
00:38:20,990 --> 00:38:18,300
there's got to be more Prince

928
00:38:23,569 --> 00:38:21,000
and there weren't and these were deep

929
00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:23,579
yeah right these were deep in the hard

930
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:25,740
packed dirt like inch and a half two

931
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:26,880
inches deep

932
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,720
and I'm like huh

933
00:38:37,310 --> 00:38:32,960
huh

934
00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:37,320
they start and they stop

935
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:41,460
where'd he go or she right where'd he

936
00:38:48,290 --> 00:38:45,119
come from right there's nothing Marching

937
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:48,300
In there's just these four like came in

938
00:38:55,069 --> 00:38:52,320
dropped in ran right did took four steps

939
00:38:57,170 --> 00:38:55,079
and then poof yeah and and you just

940
00:39:00,349 --> 00:38:57,180
gotta scratch your head and and and

941
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:00,359
wonder what's really going on here that

942
00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:02,160
you're looking at it but it doesn't make

943
00:39:06,770 --> 00:39:04,920
any sense it doesn't make any sense the

944
00:39:08,750 --> 00:39:06,780
best illustration that I've ever seen of

945
00:39:11,089 --> 00:39:08,760
this to be honest with you Jimmy was in

946
00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:11,099
the new uh movie The Flash

947
00:39:16,370 --> 00:39:13,980
and there are scenes where the flash

948
00:39:18,349 --> 00:39:16,380
um he he walks through solid matter and

949
00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:18,359
what he does is he changes his vibration

950
00:39:23,089 --> 00:39:21,180
and he starts wiggling really fast and

951
00:39:25,069 --> 00:39:23,099
they do this really cool CGI effect

952
00:39:27,410 --> 00:39:25,079
where you see the molecules intersecting

953
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:27,420
and passing through and he'll end up

954
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:28,560
walking through a wall or walking

955
00:39:32,990 --> 00:39:30,720
through a door and I think that they're

956
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:33,000
doing something similar to that they're

957
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:34,800
somehow I don't know if they're

958
00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:37,320
vibrating at a higher frequency I don't

959
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,359
I don't know what they're doing in order

960
00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:41,040
to not leave

961
00:39:46,609 --> 00:39:44,520
Footprints in order to not have that are

962
00:39:50,030 --> 00:39:46,619
your in-laws okay with you talking like

963
00:39:54,770 --> 00:39:52,010
my father-in-law is a veterinarian so

964
00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:54,780
he's a little he's like he's uh he's all

965
00:39:59,329 --> 00:39:56,940
in right now on Bigfoot now I mean I

966
00:40:01,370 --> 00:39:59,339
think he's convinced and and what's

967
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:01,380
funny is that

968
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:03,060
um Jill's mom I you know my

969
00:40:06,770 --> 00:40:05,040
mother-in-law she she's like sending us

970
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:06,780
like Bigfoot reports and stuff like that

971
00:40:10,670 --> 00:40:09,119
and it it's cool it's super cool man

972
00:40:15,530 --> 00:40:10,680
yeah

973
00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:15,540
right on well it now here and and for me

974
00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:19,380
to be uh on the skeptical side of

975
00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:22,440
Bigfoot for so many years

976
00:40:27,710 --> 00:40:25,140
um it's a strange thing because if the

977
00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:27,720
UFO Community had the Patterson gimlin

978
00:40:32,510 --> 00:40:30,660
film it would be case closed yeah there

979
00:40:34,190 --> 00:40:32,520
wouldn't be any conversation about this

980
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:34,200
at all yeah

981
00:40:39,950 --> 00:40:37,440
um and and the Patterson gimlin film I

982
00:40:43,010 --> 00:40:39,960
every time I watch it that's real that's

983
00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:43,020
real that's that's real but yet I'm

984
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:44,820
skeptical since it doesn't make any

985
00:40:51,050 --> 00:40:48,240
sense you know it's like what did you

986
00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:51,060
know I I can't be this walking Paradox

987
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,780
yeah this this hypocritical mindset but

988
00:40:59,390 --> 00:40:56,880
that's where we are that's where we are

989
00:41:02,210 --> 00:40:59,400
and I completely understand because it

990
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:02,220
conflicts with our own reality so

991
00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:03,599
drastically

992
00:41:07,970 --> 00:41:05,880
that it's just hard for us to wrap our

993
00:41:10,310 --> 00:41:07,980
heads around it and there's a lot of us

994
00:41:11,870 --> 00:41:10,320
out there that that fear the unknown

995
00:41:14,569 --> 00:41:11,880
that you know things that we're not

996
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:14,579
Comfort aliens and Bigfoot and you know

997
00:41:19,370 --> 00:41:17,520
but at the same time we're in church on

998
00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:19,380
Sunday or the synagogue or whatever and

999
00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:21,740
and there we are worshiping

1000
00:41:27,530 --> 00:41:25,140
Supernatural entities you know

1001
00:41:29,329 --> 00:41:27,540
um Jesus Christ Ron Moorehead talks

1002
00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:29,339
about this in his his book The quantum

1003
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,500
Bigfoot Jesus Christ does a lot of the

1004
00:41:35,210 --> 00:41:32,880
same things that people are reporting

1005
00:41:37,250 --> 00:41:35,220
seen Bigfoot do walking on water

1006
00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:37,260
levitating you know these types of

1007
00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:38,520
different things and so this is where

1008
00:41:41,390 --> 00:41:40,140
we're coming back and saying wait a

1009
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:41,400
minute hold on a second they're all

1010
00:41:45,050 --> 00:41:43,380
utilizing the same science

1011
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,060
they're all doing the same kind of thing

1012
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:47,040
and don't get me wrong I I want to

1013
00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:48,720
stress that I believe that Bigfoot is a

1014
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:50,940
biological entity it's a biological

1015
00:41:55,250 --> 00:41:53,280
entity that is that has evolved to a

1016
00:41:57,950 --> 00:41:55,260
point to figure out how to

1017
00:41:59,930 --> 00:41:57,960
you know do this stuff you know just

1018
00:42:01,910 --> 00:41:59,940
like aliens I think I mean aliens are

1019
00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:01,920
just far more advanced than we are and

1020
00:42:06,589 --> 00:42:04,200
you know they have capabilities We Have

1021
00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:06,599
Skills we have yet to learn

1022
00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:07,320
um

1023
00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:10,180
I totally lost track of your question no

1024
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:12,180
[Laughter]

1025
00:42:18,530 --> 00:42:15,839
a great answer though you had no but see

1026
00:42:19,849 --> 00:42:18,540
here's the thing though and I'm going to

1027
00:42:23,810 --> 00:42:19,859
say here's the thing so many times

1028
00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:23,820
tonight you're a filmmaker yeah and you

1029
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,300
you turn around and you look at and I

1030
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:29,760
know that you've had every single frame

1031
00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:33,359
of Patterson gimlin and you're looking

1032
00:42:40,250 --> 00:42:36,540
to see I'm assuming how this could be

1033
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:40,260
faked right that's it this cannot be

1034
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:43,260
real so that's what you do you you study

1035
00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:45,540
this film how many times have you

1036
00:42:52,490 --> 00:42:49,619
watched it and and after each one is is

1037
00:42:54,650 --> 00:42:52,500
your belief system more cemented I love

1038
00:42:58,010 --> 00:42:54,660
this subject I love the Patterson gimlin

1039
00:43:00,829 --> 00:42:58,020
subject so much because I I would bet my

1040
00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:00,839
life that that movie is real and here's

1041
00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:02,160
the here's the thing that nobody's

1042
00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:04,260
talking about with Patterson gimlin and

1043
00:43:07,730 --> 00:43:05,460
something that I know you will

1044
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:07,740
appreciate Jimmy and Dr meldrum's

1045
00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:09,359
touched on it a little bit as far as the

1046
00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:12,060
costume is concerned okay so in the

1047
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,060
1960s the Planet of the Apes late 1960s

1048
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:17,040
early 70s Planet of the Apes wanted to

1049
00:43:21,770 --> 00:43:19,440
ask honorary Oscar for costumes okay so

1050
00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:21,780
go back and Watch Planet of the Apes and

1051
00:43:25,550 --> 00:43:23,640
look at those costumes all right they

1052
00:43:28,670 --> 00:43:25,560
were fine they were great for for that

1053
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:28,680
time period but uh they didn't have CGI

1054
00:43:33,230 --> 00:43:29,760
back then

1055
00:43:35,089 --> 00:43:33,240
and they are nowhere near nowhere near

1056
00:43:37,490 --> 00:43:35,099
the quality of costume that the

1057
00:43:41,329 --> 00:43:37,500
Patterson gimlin footage shows that

1058
00:43:43,970 --> 00:43:41,339
Patty is wearing if you will

1059
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:43,980
um that's it you know that it's

1060
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:46,740
form-fitting if it is a costume it's it

1061
00:43:52,250 --> 00:43:48,960
would be form-fitting it would be two

1062
00:43:55,309 --> 00:43:52,260
exact specs it would be movable

1063
00:43:56,510 --> 00:43:55,319
um so here's here's the part that here's

1064
00:43:59,630 --> 00:43:56,520
the reason why I think this is 100

1065
00:44:01,490 --> 00:43:59,640
authentic Logistics okay when you're a

1066
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:01,500
filmmaker and you go out and your goal

1067
00:44:05,930 --> 00:44:04,079
is to make a convincing film there's a

1068
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:05,940
lot of things that you have got to do in

1069
00:44:10,010 --> 00:44:07,920
order to get that film right you got to

1070
00:44:12,589 --> 00:44:10,020
cast your actor you got to find a

1071
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,599
location you've got to you've got to put

1072
00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:14,640
together your production designer your

1073
00:44:17,930 --> 00:44:16,380
costumes

1074
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:17,940
um you've got to rehearse your

1075
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:21,060
performance okay so and then you enter

1076
00:44:26,089 --> 00:44:24,480
Bob gimlin and Roger Patterson a couple

1077
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,099
of cowboys looking to make a quick Buck

1078
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:28,560
driving cattle through

1079
00:44:32,089 --> 00:44:30,240
um really I don't know if anybody's been

1080
00:44:35,210 --> 00:44:32,099
down to the Bluff Creek area

1081
00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:35,220
uh Jill and I were were there about a

1082
00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:37,740
year ago to the day actually

1083
00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:40,440
um looking at the original site it is

1084
00:44:46,250 --> 00:44:43,380
rugged as all get out it's extremely

1085
00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:46,260
difficult to get to okay so you take all

1086
00:44:49,490 --> 00:44:47,940
the and here's two guys that live in

1087
00:44:51,230 --> 00:44:49,500
Yakima Washington they could have gone

1088
00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:51,240
over to Mount Adams they could have gone

1089
00:44:55,970 --> 00:44:53,460
20 minutes away and just gotten this

1090
00:44:58,010 --> 00:44:55,980
over with to fake it okay thank you

1091
00:44:59,390 --> 00:44:58,020
stayed in Yakima yeah they could have

1092
00:45:00,290 --> 00:44:59,400
stayed in Yakima I mean seriously they

1093
00:45:01,790 --> 00:45:00,300
could have done this in the afternoon

1094
00:45:05,450 --> 00:45:01,800
they could have been home for a whiskey

1095
00:45:08,329 --> 00:45:05,460
okay yep but no it's all taking place

1096
00:45:10,490 --> 00:45:08,339
down here in this area and and when you

1097
00:45:12,530 --> 00:45:10,500
when you go frame by frame and you look

1098
00:45:14,510 --> 00:45:12,540
at that walk I'm thinking to myself

1099
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:14,520
who's that actor because he should be

1100
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:16,079
given an Oscar

1101
00:45:20,809 --> 00:45:18,359
because the way that it walks the way

1102
00:45:23,170 --> 00:45:20,819
that it moves the fact that the costume

1103
00:45:25,790 --> 00:45:23,180
had breasts you think a couple of

1104
00:45:28,250 --> 00:45:25,800
cowboys would that's the game changer

1105
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:28,260
for me Game Changer yeah and and and and

1106
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,200
now you bring a Planet of the Apes and

1107
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:33,599
which is easy enough to do because

1108
00:45:40,010 --> 00:45:36,960
Planet of the Apes they've got the best

1109
00:45:42,050 --> 00:45:40,020
makeup and costume and Prosthetics uh

1110
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,060
people in Hollywood yeah the highest

1111
00:45:45,890 --> 00:45:44,640
paid put the team together and they

1112
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:45,900
struggled

1113
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:50,160
to get that movie made and and as fake

1114
00:45:55,130 --> 00:45:51,599
as it looks it's one of my favorite

1115
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:55,140
movies but it is what it is but that's

1116
00:46:02,150 --> 00:45:57,839
let's talk about Stanley Kubrick yeah

1117
00:46:04,670 --> 00:46:02,160
Stanley Kubrick who is uh or was

1118
00:46:07,309 --> 00:46:04,680
one of my favorite directors if not my

1119
00:46:10,849 --> 00:46:07,319
favorite director was a perfectionist

1120
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:10,859
he had a if you had a two-word line two

1121
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:15,599
words yes sir he did a hundred takes 100

1122
00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:16,800
takes

1123
00:46:23,569 --> 00:46:20,040
and and and and and and are you saying

1124
00:46:25,569 --> 00:46:23,579
that uh that uh Patterson and gimlin

1125
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:25,579
one take Jake

1126
00:46:33,530 --> 00:46:30,800
one you know and Kubrick is as great as

1127
00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:33,540
2001 is

1128
00:46:40,670 --> 00:46:38,520
it's fake yeah he struggled to make sure

1129
00:46:43,250 --> 00:46:40,680
that he had the best actors the best

1130
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:43,260
thing those guys practiced and studied

1131
00:46:48,349 --> 00:46:45,839
at the zoo and gorillas and mimicking

1132
00:46:50,690 --> 00:46:48,359
and everything else and it was still

1133
00:46:53,390 --> 00:46:50,700
dudes and gorilla suits

1134
00:46:55,309 --> 00:46:53,400
right and yeah

1135
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:55,319
so and then you turn around and you look

1136
00:47:01,309 --> 00:46:58,079
at Patterson gimlin and that's not the

1137
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:01,319
vibe you get there that's not not at all

1138
00:47:06,109 --> 00:47:04,079
it's not it's not a costume no no it's

1139
00:47:08,329 --> 00:47:06,119
not a costume I mean people got I've got

1140
00:47:12,410 --> 00:47:08,339
to remember that 2001 was the Marvel

1141
00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:12,420
movie event of the time that it came out

1142
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:14,760
you know the you're you're exactly right

1143
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:17,220
the best technicians the best anybody

1144
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:19,920
and everybody worked on that movie to

1145
00:47:23,809 --> 00:47:21,839
make that movie look perfect and as a as

1146
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:23,819
a great example there's a scene the

1147
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,119
opening scene that film are what Apes

1148
00:47:31,309 --> 00:47:29,760
other guys in in monkey costumes and

1149
00:47:32,750 --> 00:47:31,319
they tossed the bone up and you've got

1150
00:47:34,250 --> 00:47:32,760
that famous match cut to the the

1151
00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:34,260
spaceship

1152
00:47:38,569 --> 00:47:36,420
um go back and look at those Apes you

1153
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:38,579
know they look okay they're not terrible

1154
00:47:45,890 --> 00:47:43,440
but but this is no Patty this is it was

1155
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:45,900
the best that Stanley Kubrick could do

1156
00:47:50,829 --> 00:47:48,480
yeah and it still stands up I mean it's

1157
00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:50,839
it's great but it's not Star Wars

1158
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:53,880
it's telling the story of oh be careful

1159
00:47:59,530 --> 00:47:56,640
yeah you know that that cut scene

1160
00:48:02,750 --> 00:47:59,540
between the bone and the spaceship yeah

1161
00:48:05,530 --> 00:48:02,760
cinematic genius it's amazing and the

1162
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:05,540
monolith and the you know on the moon

1163
00:48:11,569 --> 00:48:07,980
I meant Star Wars as far as visual

1164
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,579
effects go I mean 2001 is a classic uh

1165
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:13,040
I'll give you wrong

1166
00:48:19,309 --> 00:48:15,599
if you want to if you want to go down

1167
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:19,319
the Star Wars 2001 comparison show and

1168
00:48:27,309 --> 00:48:22,640
change right now off of Bigfoot game on

1169
00:48:29,150 --> 00:48:27,319
I'll pass you're not gonna win that one

1170
00:48:31,569 --> 00:48:29,160
but

1171
00:48:36,589 --> 00:48:31,579
um uh back to Patterson gimlin

1172
00:48:41,569 --> 00:48:36,599
the suggestions of uh you know a horse

1173
00:48:44,210 --> 00:48:41,579
hide you know costume and and it's like

1174
00:48:46,010 --> 00:48:44,220
have you watched the film when you're

1175
00:48:49,309 --> 00:48:46,020
making these claims

1176
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,319
you're looking at muscles

1177
00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:51,599
Flex

1178
00:48:59,210 --> 00:48:55,140
um those boobs are in the breeze yep

1179
00:49:02,270 --> 00:48:59,220
right and the that's an impossibility to

1180
00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:02,280
do it's you know today CGI but it's the

1181
00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:05,160
muscles under the skin and and the

1182
00:49:10,250 --> 00:49:07,800
flexing the walk and Meldrum and the

1183
00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:10,260
gate and and all yes that's because it's

1184
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:11,160
real

1185
00:49:16,910 --> 00:49:14,640
but it's the other stuff why why would

1186
00:49:18,770 --> 00:49:16,920
somebody try to convince others that

1187
00:49:22,670 --> 00:49:18,780
that's a costume when you can look at it

1188
00:49:24,050 --> 00:49:22,680
and see the muscles yeah yeah it's

1189
00:49:25,609 --> 00:49:24,060
almost like a knee-jerk reaction it's

1190
00:49:27,890 --> 00:49:25,619
almost like people are afraid for it to

1191
00:49:29,930 --> 00:49:27,900
be real the other POS the other thing

1192
00:49:31,790 --> 00:49:29,940
about this too Jimmy is that is that

1193
00:49:33,530 --> 00:49:31,800
people that are involved in Hollywood

1194
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,540
and making movies

1195
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:35,520
if somebody were to design that costume

1196
00:49:40,910 --> 00:49:37,440
we you know there's egos in this

1197
00:49:42,349 --> 00:49:40,920
business oh yes there's Egos and and the

1198
00:49:44,270 --> 00:49:42,359
other thing about that too is that

1199
00:49:46,490 --> 00:49:44,280
eventually the guilt weighs down if this

1200
00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:46,500
is a hoax or if this is a lie

1201
00:49:50,990 --> 00:49:48,540
somebody confesses to it whether it was

1202
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,000
the guy that made the costume or

1203
00:49:55,970 --> 00:49:54,240
Patterson or it's gimlin I've met gimlin

1204
00:49:57,890 --> 00:49:55,980
in person the guy is like a sweetheart

1205
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:57,900
of a man you know what I mean and he

1206
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:00,720
maintains to this day at 92 93 years old

1207
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:04,079
he maintains the the authenticity of

1208
00:50:08,750 --> 00:50:06,240
that film you know what I'm saying and

1209
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:08,760
it's like it's in a lot of ways it's

1210
00:50:14,030 --> 00:50:11,280
that you know 15 seconds or whatever it

1211
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:14,040
is of film has kind of controlled his

1212
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:16,319
entire life it's his identity anywhere

1213
00:50:20,329 --> 00:50:18,720
and everywhere he goes so wouldn't it

1214
00:50:22,370 --> 00:50:20,339
just be easier for him to say all right

1215
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,380
you know Roger and I we made it up

1216
00:50:26,270 --> 00:50:24,480
it was cool while it lasted I thought we

1217
00:50:28,910 --> 00:50:26,280
did a pretty good job and so-and-so made

1218
00:50:30,770 --> 00:50:28,920
the costume but nobody said anything

1219
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:30,780
because nobody has anything to say other

1220
00:50:35,809 --> 00:50:32,880
than it's real no you're right about the

1221
00:50:40,430 --> 00:50:35,819
ego part if they would have said that

1222
00:50:43,550 --> 00:50:40,440
they would have uh the careers that

1223
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:43,560
could have been built yes that I mean

1224
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:47,760
like serious business and and no that uh

1225
00:50:53,809 --> 00:50:49,680
it's not the case

1226
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:53,819
um the uh the other part uh about uh the

1227
00:50:59,690 --> 00:50:57,119
Patterson gimlin film is that once it's

1228
00:51:03,109 --> 00:50:59,700
stabilized

1229
00:51:07,130 --> 00:51:03,119
um it's it it's convincing's not the

1230
00:51:11,450 --> 00:51:07,140
right word but it it it it it's not

1231
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:11,460
showing fakeness it's improving on the

1232
00:51:16,370 --> 00:51:14,400
reality of it and I think that the the

1233
00:51:18,650 --> 00:51:16,380
debunkers out there right and the

1234
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:18,660
Skeptics of the world were hoping that

1235
00:51:24,109 --> 00:51:21,359
stabilizing that would reveal the flaws

1236
00:51:26,270 --> 00:51:24,119
instead it shows the the Perfection of

1237
00:51:27,950 --> 00:51:26,280
nature it does it shows perfection in

1238
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:27,960
nature and I've I've been saying this

1239
00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:30,240
for a while now that that as technology

1240
00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:33,359
gets better and better and better that

1241
00:51:37,250 --> 00:51:35,400
film becomes better and better and

1242
00:51:39,290 --> 00:51:37,260
better in that you know a lot of people

1243
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:39,300
forget that because you see scratches

1244
00:51:45,170 --> 00:51:42,480
and and hairs and dirt and dust in film

1245
00:51:47,290 --> 00:51:45,180
they think that film is far inferior to

1246
00:51:50,809 --> 00:51:47,300
digital video and that's entirely untrue

1247
00:51:52,430 --> 00:51:50,819
film is and although they don't have the

1248
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:52,440
original negative that that was shot on

1249
00:51:55,370 --> 00:51:54,000
yet they have prints of it and even

1250
00:51:58,190 --> 00:51:55,380
those prints

1251
00:51:59,690 --> 00:51:58,200
you're talking about like HD to Ultra HD

1252
00:52:01,490 --> 00:51:59,700
quality

1253
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:01,500
um and and if you scan it correctly

1254
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:04,800
which they've done now you get that kind

1255
00:52:12,049 --> 00:52:08,880
of detail you know and um Henry franzoni

1256
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:12,059
who was given a half a million dollars

1257
00:52:16,250 --> 00:52:15,599
to disprove it in the late 90s

1258
00:52:18,589 --> 00:52:16,260
um

1259
00:52:20,089 --> 00:52:18,599
couldn't do it it couldn't do it you

1260
00:52:22,849 --> 00:52:20,099
know they they literally went to New

1261
00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:22,859
York City and they used uh this machine

1262
00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:25,319
called a telecini scene machine to

1263
00:52:29,569 --> 00:52:27,240
transfer to digital to just pick it

1264
00:52:32,210 --> 00:52:29,579
apart and the more they tried to pick it

1265
00:52:36,530 --> 00:52:32,220
apart the more they proved it was real

1266
00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:36,540
the um uh the original print

1267
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:40,500
the story behind that and how it was

1268
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:44,640
stored and just disappeared that that's

1269
00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:47,520
that's a that's a caper isn't it I don't

1270
00:52:51,470 --> 00:52:49,260
know a lot about it I just know that

1271
00:52:54,829 --> 00:52:51,480
that it was there one day and gone the

1272
00:52:57,770 --> 00:52:54,839
next right right yeah yeah well they

1273
00:53:02,329 --> 00:52:57,780
know who was go coming and going right

1274
00:53:04,970 --> 00:53:02,339
at the at the film but it's a vault of a

1275
00:53:05,930 --> 00:53:04,980
film yeah yeah

1276
00:53:09,290 --> 00:53:05,940
hey

1277
00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:09,300
see you know what I mean but but that's

1278
00:53:14,690 --> 00:53:12,540
the original print uh it's just uh

1279
00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:14,700
disappeared you know and what's

1280
00:53:18,290 --> 00:53:16,260
interesting is a lot of Ron moorhead's

1281
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:18,300
original audio recordings

1282
00:53:24,349 --> 00:53:21,599
um burnt up in a fire in a house fire

1283
00:53:25,849 --> 00:53:24,359
so look two very important pieces of

1284
00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:25,859
history that were missing the originals

1285
00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:29,220
up but luckily you know copies are out

1286
00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:31,140
there and those copies are are pretty

1287
00:53:36,290 --> 00:53:32,460
dang good

1288
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,300
now um before we head to the break

1289
00:53:41,450 --> 00:53:39,359
do you feel and we'll continue this um

1290
00:53:43,370 --> 00:53:41,460
after the break

1291
00:53:45,770 --> 00:53:43,380
Bigfoot

1292
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:45,780
male or female it's kind of weird it's

1293
00:53:50,750 --> 00:53:49,440
got a male slant to it yeah yeah but

1294
00:53:54,250 --> 00:53:50,760
anyway

1295
00:53:57,470 --> 00:53:54,260
um is only seen if they want to be seen

1296
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:57,480
right it says the way that you feel

1297
00:54:01,370 --> 00:53:59,280
that's the way I feel

1298
00:54:03,049 --> 00:54:01,380
um I it you know and it's what's really

1299
00:54:04,430 --> 00:54:03,059
interesting is we were we were talking

1300
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,440
to a psychic that we've been working

1301
00:54:09,650 --> 00:54:07,200
with down in um near Eugene Oregon and

1302
00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:09,660
she has a she has an open line of

1303
00:54:12,349 --> 00:54:11,220
communication I don't want to get too

1304
00:54:14,809 --> 00:54:12,359
much into this because it's in our

1305
00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:14,819
sequel but I asked her Point Blank I

1306
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:16,319
said you know if you're talking to the

1307
00:54:21,230 --> 00:54:18,960
Bigfoot people and ask them why Patty

1308
00:54:23,530 --> 00:54:21,240
allowed herself to be filmed how did why

1309
00:54:26,510 --> 00:54:23,540
didn't she run away or hide in the trees

1310
00:54:28,910 --> 00:54:26,520
and her response her name is Tara the

1311
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,920
psychic her response was she didn't care

1312
00:54:32,569 --> 00:54:31,200
she said the most almost all of them

1313
00:54:34,130 --> 00:54:32,579
don't want to be seen or photographed

1314
00:54:37,549 --> 00:54:34,140
but this particular one at this

1315
00:54:40,370 --> 00:54:37,559
particular time didn't care for what

1316
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:40,380
that's worth I don't know but yes you're

1317
00:54:45,170 --> 00:54:43,440
right I I think that you know anybody

1318
00:54:46,730 --> 00:54:45,180
and everybody that we've talked to

1319
00:54:48,530 --> 00:54:46,740
virtually everybody that we've talked to

1320
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:48,540
that has had a sighting

1321
00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:50,880
has another one or they have something

1322
00:54:55,790 --> 00:54:52,740
else strange happen to them

1323
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,800
so um it does feel very Chad and Austin

1324
00:55:01,930 --> 00:54:57,839
in our film

1325
00:55:08,569 --> 00:55:05,329
can we let's talk about those two for a

1326
00:55:11,870 --> 00:55:08,579
second okay how did you find them or did

1327
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:11,880
I find you man you know this whole

1328
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,599
process for both films has been

1329
00:55:19,730 --> 00:55:18,000
organic and it just these people just

1330
00:55:21,410 --> 00:55:19,740
come into our lives and we find them and

1331
00:55:22,490 --> 00:55:21,420
stuff Chad and Austin I found on

1332
00:55:24,770 --> 00:55:22,500
Facebook

1333
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:24,780
and Chad made this post in like one of

1334
00:55:27,770 --> 00:55:26,400
the Bigfoot forums he's like I don't

1335
00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:27,780
know what's going on we have the

1336
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,880
sighting you know we were freaked out

1337
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:31,680
who do we talk to so on and so forth I

1338
00:55:36,410 --> 00:55:33,599
mean psychologically those guys were

1339
00:55:38,569 --> 00:55:36,420
really messed up for months and you know

1340
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:38,579
and they're probably they're both very

1341
00:55:44,510 --> 00:55:42,480
cinematic yeah totally right yeah yeah

1342
00:55:48,049 --> 00:55:44,520
yeah yeah yeah they're both very

1343
00:55:50,930 --> 00:55:48,059
cinematic man they really capture the

1344
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:50,940
moment and um are not afraid of the

1345
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:56,160
camera no very natural very just those

1346
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,000
two and the their story you know and and

1347
00:56:05,450 --> 00:56:02,640
their encounter well you're the guest

1348
00:56:07,790 --> 00:56:05,460
what happened they were they they went

1349
00:56:09,530 --> 00:56:07,800
to go camping right so yeah it's one

1350
00:56:11,089 --> 00:56:09,540
it's another one of those kind of hard

1351
00:56:13,970 --> 00:56:11,099
to believe stories

1352
00:56:15,950 --> 00:56:13,980
um so basically Chad and Austin you know

1353
00:56:17,809 --> 00:56:15,960
they they met at car shows and stuff

1354
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,819
like that you know good buddies they

1355
00:56:21,770 --> 00:56:19,440
decided they wanted to do YouTube videos

1356
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:21,780
and surviving in the wilderness and they

1357
00:56:25,490 --> 00:56:24,000
both those guys Austin was in the

1358
00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:25,500
military I think he searched a couple of

1359
00:56:30,410 --> 00:56:28,740
Duties um tours of Duty in Iraq and

1360
00:56:33,650 --> 00:56:30,420
Afghanistan

1361
00:56:35,329 --> 00:56:33,660
um and um Chad's just been out in the

1362
00:56:36,650 --> 00:56:35,339
woods his entire life and so they were

1363
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:36,660
like let's do YouTube videos and

1364
00:56:41,329 --> 00:56:39,119
surviving let's go out to this Lake down

1365
00:56:43,790 --> 00:56:41,339
to the or the California Oregon border

1366
00:56:45,290 --> 00:56:43,800
and we'll rough it and he's like like

1367
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:45,300
Chad's like I'm gonna have my wife drop

1368
00:56:49,549 --> 00:56:48,480
me drop us off and she won't come get us

1369
00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:49,559
unless

1370
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:51,420
she absolutely needs to and they could

1371
00:56:54,589 --> 00:56:53,040
never imagine a scenario where that

1372
00:56:56,450 --> 00:56:54,599
would take place right you know it's

1373
00:56:58,430 --> 00:56:56,460
like early October

1374
00:57:00,290 --> 00:56:58,440
weather's perfect they go out there

1375
00:57:02,690 --> 00:57:00,300
they're fishing they're filming these

1376
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:02,700
videos they're you know doing whatever

1377
00:57:08,210 --> 00:57:06,240
it is they do and um they had a camp

1378
00:57:09,650 --> 00:57:08,220
that there's a slope that lake is kind

1379
00:57:10,790 --> 00:57:09,660
it's almost like it's in a crater and

1380
00:57:13,250 --> 00:57:10,800
you can kind of see it from the aerial

1381
00:57:15,470 --> 00:57:13,260
shots but you can't really tell that the

1382
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:15,480
angle is the slope are pretty steep so

1383
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,720
they built a camp up from the lake and

1384
00:57:23,450 --> 00:57:20,880
they'd left their tent and their cameras

1385
00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:23,460
and all their stuff up top and it's like

1386
00:57:28,790 --> 00:57:25,980
5 30 6 o'clock in the evening and they

1387
00:57:30,410 --> 00:57:28,800
go down to the lake to fish to catch

1388
00:57:31,790 --> 00:57:30,420
their dinner for that night because hey

1389
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:31,800
they didn't bring in any food or

1390
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:34,079
anything else no Chad Chad Chad goes

1391
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:36,240
went down the lake to drop in drop in

1392
00:57:39,950 --> 00:57:38,640
some lines yeah yeah so they're gonna

1393
00:57:42,049 --> 00:57:39,960
you know they're gonna fish and they're

1394
00:57:43,549 --> 00:57:42,059
all alone up there I mean it's just

1395
00:57:45,049 --> 00:57:43,559
another one of those places that when we

1396
00:57:47,569 --> 00:57:45,059
decided to go out and film they were

1397
00:57:49,370 --> 00:57:47,579
like okay this is we had to drive

1398
00:57:51,650 --> 00:57:49,380
through a river to get there I mean it

1399
00:57:53,210 --> 00:57:51,660
was nuts it was totally nuts it's not a

1400
00:57:55,370 --> 00:57:53,220
place that you find your casual Weekend

1401
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,380
Warriors at

1402
00:57:59,329 --> 00:57:57,839
um and so they're up up there and and

1403
00:58:01,730 --> 00:57:59,339
you're they're down at the lake and

1404
00:58:02,990 --> 00:58:01,740
they're fishing and and they look across

1405
00:58:04,609 --> 00:58:03,000
the lake and this lake is about the

1406
00:58:06,530 --> 00:58:04,619
length of a football field I measured it

1407
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:06,540
with my drone I flew from where they

1408
00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:08,160
were standing to the other end of the of

1409
00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:10,140
the lake it's about 100 yards

1410
00:58:15,470 --> 00:58:13,500
and they see this kind of red cinnamon

1411
00:58:19,089 --> 00:58:15,480
color thing standing there

1412
00:58:22,370 --> 00:58:19,099
and they're just like uh bare you know

1413
00:58:25,069 --> 00:58:22,380
sow you know like and then they see the

1414
00:58:27,410 --> 00:58:25,079
Juvenile and the the the thing the

1415
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:27,420
creature takes the German or puts the

1416
00:58:31,609 --> 00:58:29,760
head like like a dad or a mom would do

1417
00:58:33,650 --> 00:58:31,619
if they didn't want the child to see

1418
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:33,660
something traumatic or something and it

1419
00:58:38,270 --> 00:58:35,760
moved it behind it to protect it and

1420
00:58:41,329 --> 00:58:38,280
then they took off lightning fast

1421
00:58:45,470 --> 00:58:41,339
and and the whole siding lasted for like

1422
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:45,480
90 seconds to two minutes now now let's

1423
00:58:51,650 --> 00:58:49,440
let's examine what you just said because

1424
00:58:55,010 --> 00:58:51,660
I think it's very important

1425
00:58:57,710 --> 00:58:55,020
um and I've I've heard a lot of that uh

1426
00:58:59,569 --> 00:58:57,720
I've never heard this side of things

1427
00:59:01,309 --> 00:58:59,579
where

1428
00:59:03,049 --> 00:59:01,319
um it's a parent

1429
00:59:06,289 --> 00:59:03,059
right don't know if it's male or female

1430
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:06,299
but it's a parent yeah got the kid with

1431
00:59:12,650 --> 00:59:10,319
them right and the parent does what

1432
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:12,660
every good parent does with their child

1433
00:59:17,630 --> 00:59:15,599
at a moment like that you scoot your

1434
00:59:20,690 --> 00:59:17,640
child behind you

1435
00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:20,700
to protect them yep and that's what

1436
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:25,140
that's what uh these two saw and and

1437
00:59:31,069 --> 00:59:29,040
they I I think that emotionally that's

1438
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:31,079
that's that's what they remember about

1439
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:34,559
Bigfoot was this parenting aspect in in

1440
00:59:38,690 --> 00:59:36,240
Chad's apparent you know I think he's

1441
00:59:41,410 --> 00:59:38,700
got two or three kids and so that really

1442
00:59:45,470 --> 00:59:41,420
had an effect on him to see this parent

1443
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,480
Sheltering their child you know as a

1444
00:59:49,849 --> 00:59:47,760
father that really had a profound effect

1445
00:59:52,910 --> 00:59:49,859
on him Austin

1446
00:59:54,349 --> 00:59:52,920
um on the other hand uh Works in a um a

1447
00:59:55,849 --> 00:59:54,359
center for

1448
00:59:57,950 --> 00:59:55,859
um kids that are dealing with some

1449
01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:57,960
challenges you know whether it's uh

1450
01:00:03,289 --> 01:00:00,240
developmental disabilities or what have

1451
01:00:06,289 --> 01:00:03,299
you and you know he's got that same kind

1452
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,299
of emotional IQ if you will so what they

1453
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:08,400
were observing really resonated with

1454
01:00:12,530 --> 01:00:10,079
them on an emotional level it wasn't

1455
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:12,540
just like wow you know look at that

1456
01:00:16,970 --> 01:00:14,400
hairy guy you know what I mean it was

1457
01:00:19,010 --> 01:00:16,980
very very deep and

1458
01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:19,020
um you know this is the thing that that

1459
01:00:22,910 --> 01:00:21,359
I I love doing when i'm a filmmaker I

1460
01:00:25,250 --> 01:00:22,920
love to talk about you know the behind

1461
01:00:26,809 --> 01:00:25,260
the scenes stuff and some of the stuff

1462
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,819
that they're saying

1463
01:00:30,170 --> 01:00:28,559
um I recorded when they didn't know I

1464
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:30,180
was recording them

1465
01:00:33,890 --> 01:00:31,680
yeah I was just recording I was just

1466
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:33,900
rolling audio the entire time and and

1467
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:35,520
they're standing there going you know in

1468
01:00:38,089 --> 01:00:36,960
Austin's like I can't believe we're

1469
01:00:39,770 --> 01:00:38,099
standing here

1470
01:00:41,329 --> 01:00:39,780
you know my life has never been the same

1471
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:41,339
again you know and these guys are having

1472
01:00:45,170 --> 01:00:43,200
bro moments right they're having these

1473
01:00:47,450 --> 01:00:45,180
come to Jesus bro moments about what

1474
01:00:49,549 --> 01:00:47,460
they experienced and I'm listening to

1475
01:00:51,049 --> 01:00:49,559
some headphones and I'm like

1476
01:00:53,690 --> 01:00:51,059
two three hundred feet away they're

1477
01:00:55,970 --> 01:00:53,700
ahead of me and I'm just like whoa

1478
01:00:58,609 --> 01:00:55,980
you know like I never questioned their

1479
01:01:01,069 --> 01:00:58,619
their validity ever these guys are the

1480
01:01:02,930 --> 01:01:01,079
most Earnest guys ever but just hearing

1481
01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:02,940
that you know instead of them putting on

1482
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:04,319
a quote-unquote performance for the

1483
01:01:10,970 --> 01:01:06,720
camera or being prepped for the camera

1484
01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:10,980
it was real it was real and what uh what

1485
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:13,920
an interactive were they were definitive

1486
01:01:20,930 --> 01:01:18,240
about the color yes yeah right not no no

1487
01:01:23,450 --> 01:01:20,940
no it wasn't Brown wasn't dark brown

1488
01:01:27,370 --> 01:01:23,460
wasn't black no no

1489
01:01:31,370 --> 01:01:27,380
cinnamon yeah very

1490
01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:31,380
chewbaccish yes yep we hear the cinnamon

1491
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:33,180
color a lot actually it's very common

1492
01:01:46,430 --> 01:01:42,230
so I'm looking across I'm like what and

1493
01:01:49,730 --> 01:01:46,440
and and uh the his

1494
01:01:53,089 --> 01:01:49,740
he's got a bit both of them but he's got

1495
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:53,099
this very honest demeanor about him and

1496
01:01:59,930 --> 01:01:56,880
and he just wants to tell the story his

1497
01:02:02,690 --> 01:01:59,940
experience as it happened and that's

1498
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:02,700
that's it he's just got this very very

1499
01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:05,760
honest what's the word trustworthy is

1500
01:02:10,430 --> 01:02:07,200
that is that the right yeah no

1501
01:02:13,490 --> 01:02:10,440
trustworthy Earnest I mean authentic

1502
01:02:16,010 --> 01:02:13,500
yeah um and he's like that in person I

1503
01:02:17,870 --> 01:02:16,020
mean that's that's who that man is he's

1504
01:02:20,210 --> 01:02:17,880
a wonderful guy man he's great I mean

1505
01:02:21,710 --> 01:02:20,220
the first they they drove all the way up

1506
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:21,720
to Southern Oregon for their first

1507
01:02:25,549 --> 01:02:23,760
interview and then we drove up from

1508
01:02:26,809 --> 01:02:25,559
Southern Oregon to Portland which is

1509
01:02:29,030 --> 01:02:26,819
about four and a half hours they drove

1510
01:02:30,109 --> 01:02:29,040
up by themselves and we did their first

1511
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:30,119
interview

1512
01:02:34,010 --> 01:02:32,640
and then um then we subsequently went

1513
01:02:36,410 --> 01:02:34,020
down to the lake about three months

1514
01:02:38,690 --> 01:02:36,420
later after the snow had melted

1515
01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:38,700
um but they're they're just as authentic

1516
01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:41,040
on cameras there in real life really

1517
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:43,500
great guys to work with let's take our

1518
01:02:47,630 --> 01:02:45,599
break right here it is break time our

1519
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:47,640
guest tonight Brett eichenberger we're

1520
01:02:52,490 --> 01:02:49,920
talking about a flash of beauty uh

1521
01:02:56,450 --> 01:02:52,500
Bigfoot revealed the film was released

1522
01:02:58,609 --> 01:02:56,460
about uh a year ago I saw it for the

1523
01:03:00,170 --> 01:02:58,619
first time uh about three months ago

1524
01:03:01,549 --> 01:03:00,180
when I started talking about it here on

1525
01:03:03,410 --> 01:03:01,559
Fade to Black

1526
01:03:05,329 --> 01:03:03,420
um it's on all the streaming platforms

1527
01:03:07,970 --> 01:03:05,339
the links forward are below we've got it

1528
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,980
over on the website and uh so I'm sure

1529
01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:09,599
everybody's gonna go and watch the film

1530
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if you haven't already after the show

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01:03:15,890 --> 01:03:13,559
we'll be right back after this short

1532
01:03:18,170 --> 01:03:15,900
break stay with us

1533
01:03:20,450 --> 01:03:18,180
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01:03:22,670 --> 01:03:20,460
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all right Welcome Back Fade to Black I'm

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01:07:19,609 --> 01:07:16,619
your host Jimmy church tonight we are

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01:07:22,430 --> 01:07:19,619
talking to director Brett eichenberger

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01:07:25,010 --> 01:07:22,440
about his documentary about Bigfoot it

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01:07:28,990 --> 01:07:25,020
is called a flash of beauty Bigfoot

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01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:29,000
revealed and it is just

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01:07:35,569 --> 01:07:32,640
documentaries not the right word but I I

1635
01:07:38,089 --> 01:07:35,579
don't it's it's it's not fair I think

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01:07:40,370 --> 01:07:38,099
that people expect uh something else

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01:07:42,170 --> 01:07:40,380
from a documentary

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01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:42,180
um documentaries are called

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01:07:49,309 --> 01:07:45,920
documentaries because of documents right

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01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:49,319
yeah that's that's not what's going on

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01:07:52,190 --> 01:07:50,160
here

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01:07:53,329 --> 01:07:52,200
um but uh

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01:07:56,809 --> 01:07:53,339
um

1644
01:07:59,870 --> 01:07:56,819
I I want to ask you this

1645
01:08:02,809 --> 01:07:59,880
should some things

1646
01:08:06,770 --> 01:08:02,819
just not be discovered should some

1647
01:08:09,890 --> 01:08:06,780
things just be left alone were just not

1648
01:08:13,010 --> 01:08:09,900
meant at least right now

1649
01:08:15,230 --> 01:08:13,020
to to find out things I don't know

1650
01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:15,240
that's a great great question Jimmy

1651
01:08:19,729 --> 01:08:17,400
nobody's ever really asked me that and

1652
01:08:22,130 --> 01:08:19,739
that's a pretty loaded question

1653
01:08:24,169 --> 01:08:22,140
um I don't know where I stand on that I

1654
01:08:25,729 --> 01:08:24,179
the question is is are we mature enough

1655
01:08:27,709 --> 01:08:25,739
to handle it

1656
01:08:28,490 --> 01:08:27,719
you know are we smart enough to handle

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01:08:30,410 --> 01:08:28,500
it

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01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:30,420
um and and not to be you know

1659
01:08:33,530 --> 01:08:32,040
pessimistic or anything but you look

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01:08:35,930 --> 01:08:33,540
around the world and you see where we're

1661
01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:35,940
at as a civilization and there's some

1662
01:08:41,150 --> 01:08:37,920
tough things going on you know the war

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01:08:42,769 --> 01:08:41,160
in Ukraine Russia comes to mind some of

1664
01:08:45,470 --> 01:08:42,779
the things that we're doing as a species

1665
01:08:47,689 --> 01:08:45,480
and as as a civilization are pretty

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01:08:51,470 --> 01:08:47,699
archaic

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01:08:53,809 --> 01:08:51,480
and so you know are we should we be

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01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:53,819
allowed to know some of these things I

1669
01:08:57,410 --> 01:08:55,440
mean some of the technology that Dr

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01:09:02,150 --> 01:08:57,420
Steven Greer talks about

1671
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:02,160
could revolutionize our world some of

1672
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:04,319
you know with this alien technology it's

1673
01:09:07,249 --> 01:09:06,239
it's possible we could live hundreds of

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01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:07,259
years

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01:09:14,030 --> 01:09:10,799
but have we earned that right you know

1676
01:09:15,769 --> 01:09:14,040
um do we you know it's it's like the

1677
01:09:17,329 --> 01:09:15,779
stories you hear of of them going and

1678
01:09:19,789 --> 01:09:17,339
and putting a stop to nuclear weapons

1679
01:09:21,169 --> 01:09:19,799
the aliens UFOs the accounts of the

1680
01:09:24,050 --> 01:09:21,179
military watching them shut these

1681
01:09:25,789 --> 01:09:24,060
nuclear weapons off were we ever mature

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01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:25,799
enough to to

1683
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:28,080
even have that knowledge of nuclear

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01:09:32,570 --> 01:09:29,279
technology

1685
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:32,580
you know and have have aliens prevented

1686
01:09:35,390 --> 01:09:34,080
nuclear war

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01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:35,400
you know what I mean these are the

1688
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:37,440
things that I kind of think about so

1689
01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:40,799
I don't know I I think I think some some

1690
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:42,719
things yes I think there's there's some

1691
01:09:45,769 --> 01:09:44,400
technology and there's some discoveries

1692
01:09:48,349 --> 01:09:45,779
out there that people know about that

1693
01:09:51,169 --> 01:09:48,359
could stop global warming or sorry

1694
01:09:53,209 --> 01:09:51,179
climate change in its tracks

1695
01:09:54,130 --> 01:09:53,219
and and we know that's happening right

1696
01:10:02,209 --> 01:09:54,140
now

1697
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:02,219
hypothetical scenario right we find a

1698
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:03,600
Bigfoot body

1699
01:10:10,030 --> 01:10:06,800
it's on display right it's been analytic

1700
01:10:12,770 --> 01:10:10,040
Sasquatch is real right

1701
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:12,780
they're not everybody but you are going

1702
01:10:18,050 --> 01:10:15,120
to have some yahoos

1703
01:10:21,229 --> 01:10:18,060
right oh yeah oh yeah let's let's go

1704
01:10:23,890 --> 01:10:21,239
Bigfoot hunting right and you show them

1705
01:10:27,970 --> 01:10:23,900
in the movie yeah exactly

1706
01:10:32,270 --> 01:10:27,980
it's like the inevitable thing right

1707
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:32,280
and I say Yahoo's uh not as a term of

1708
01:10:38,090 --> 01:10:35,040
endearment by the way yeah right so you

1709
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:38,100
got your four-wheel drive uh Chevy

1710
01:10:42,169 --> 01:10:40,320
pickup truck you know with six dudes in

1711
01:10:44,570 --> 01:10:42,179
the back and and three dudes in the

1712
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:44,580
front and they're gonna go a Squatch

1713
01:10:53,090 --> 01:10:47,520
hunting yeah and and that's that's the

1714
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:53,100
part that it it it's a reality uh that's

1715
01:10:59,390 --> 01:10:56,159
what we would unleash so should we have

1716
01:11:03,470 --> 01:10:59,400
legislation ready to go you know it

1717
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:03,480
should it should killing a Bigfoot uh be

1718
01:11:08,990 --> 01:11:06,320
equal to killing a human 100

1719
01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:09,000
absolutely and there's laws on the books

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01:11:11,930 --> 01:11:10,980
that state that already in certain

1721
01:11:14,030 --> 01:11:11,940
places

1722
01:11:17,390 --> 01:11:14,040
uh scamini County comes to Minds

1723
01:11:19,070 --> 01:11:17,400
Community County Washington has a law

1724
01:11:20,330 --> 01:11:19,080
um I called Art Bell I call it Coast to

1725
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:20,340
Coast as a kid and it was like Hey all

1726
01:11:24,169 --> 01:11:21,600
right did you know there's a Bigfoot

1727
01:11:25,729 --> 01:11:24,179
live you kill it oh yes I know that's

1728
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:25,739
the only time I ever called Coast to

1729
01:11:31,310 --> 01:11:29,520
Coast but it's true you know um we do

1730
01:11:35,209 --> 01:11:31,320
need to be ready

1731
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:35,219
um and and all of this sounds absurd it

1732
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:36,719
sounds crazy

1733
01:11:40,250 --> 01:11:38,400
but the reality is is there's something

1734
01:11:42,169 --> 01:11:40,260
out there and we need we need to be

1735
01:11:44,990 --> 01:11:42,179
ready and I'm hoping that government

1736
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:45,000
agencies or somebody in power

1737
01:11:49,370 --> 01:11:47,760
and I think they are I honestly Jimmy I

1738
01:11:51,169 --> 01:11:49,380
honestly think that there's there's a

1739
01:11:53,149 --> 01:11:51,179
plan out there I think some of the

1740
01:11:55,370 --> 01:11:53,159
states maybe Oregon Washington Alaska

1741
01:11:57,890 --> 01:11:55,380
what have you somebody knows something

1742
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:57,900
there's a there's a book in a closet

1743
01:12:01,790 --> 01:11:59,760
like what do we do if we discover

1744
01:12:04,430 --> 01:12:01,800
Bigfoot how do we you know what do we

1745
01:12:07,550 --> 01:12:04,440
close roads do we create sanctuaries

1746
01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:07,560
what do we do there's got to be yeah the

1747
01:12:13,010 --> 01:12:10,080
Rangers you know that that's a federal

1748
01:12:14,990 --> 01:12:13,020
situation and

1749
01:12:17,689 --> 01:12:15,000
um I I don't want to get too sideways

1750
01:12:20,750 --> 01:12:17,699
off into this but

1751
01:12:24,410 --> 01:12:20,760
um the Rangers know what's up yep a

1752
01:12:27,649 --> 01:12:24,420
hundred absolutely 100 this is a subject

1753
01:12:30,770 --> 01:12:27,659
that they are trained on I believe that

1754
01:12:33,770 --> 01:12:30,780
and I mean I'm stating that as fact and

1755
01:12:37,209 --> 01:12:33,780
then when we have things like forest

1756
01:12:42,290 --> 01:12:37,219
fires or we have natural disasters

1757
01:12:44,750 --> 01:12:42,300
and uh and and you know these crazy uh

1758
01:12:48,649 --> 01:12:44,760
situations that happen

1759
01:12:52,450 --> 01:12:48,659
um there isn't evidence that is left

1760
01:12:56,689 --> 01:12:52,460
behind and it seems like there would be

1761
01:12:59,330 --> 01:12:56,699
cleanup teams right in in place have you

1762
01:13:01,910 --> 01:12:59,340
heard uh anything about this here you go

1763
01:13:05,689 --> 01:13:01,920
here we go okay so Pacific Northwest

1764
01:13:08,330 --> 01:13:05,699
Mount St Helens 1980. right

1765
01:13:10,729 --> 01:13:08,340
um yes there have been numerous reports

1766
01:13:13,130 --> 01:13:10,739
I read another one from a guy today a

1767
01:13:16,430 --> 01:13:13,140
volcanologist that's all I'll say who

1768
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:16,440
has knowledge of many Bigfoot bodies

1769
01:13:20,689 --> 01:13:19,199
being discovered after the uh explosion

1770
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:20,699
of Mount St Helens

1771
01:13:27,649 --> 01:13:24,000
and the Army and whoever else was there

1772
01:13:30,410 --> 01:13:27,659
on the ground in those hours after the

1773
01:13:31,850 --> 01:13:30,420
you know the the eruption they were out

1774
01:13:34,189 --> 01:13:31,860
there cleaning those bodies up there

1775
01:13:36,890 --> 01:13:34,199
were eyewitnesses to this and I'm

1776
01:13:39,530 --> 01:13:36,900
desperately desperately looking to speak

1777
01:13:42,410 --> 01:13:39,540
to these people because being that it

1778
01:13:44,030 --> 01:13:42,420
was 40 years ago 43 years ago somebody

1779
01:13:45,530 --> 01:13:44,040
out there is getting a little old and I

1780
01:13:46,850 --> 01:13:45,540
want to be able even if they're willing

1781
01:13:48,530 --> 01:13:46,860
to go on camera

1782
01:13:50,030 --> 01:13:48,540
and we don't release the interview I'm

1783
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:50,040
willing to sign whatever if we don't

1784
01:13:53,450 --> 01:13:51,360
release the interview until after they

1785
01:13:55,850 --> 01:13:53,460
pass or what have you or we just

1786
01:13:56,990 --> 01:13:55,860
recorded for historical purposes I

1787
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,000
really want to talk to these people

1788
01:14:01,610 --> 01:13:59,040
because somebody knows something and I'm

1789
01:14:03,229 --> 01:14:01,620
I am convinced that this took place

1790
01:14:04,490 --> 01:14:03,239
there's been too many people that have

1791
01:14:05,870 --> 01:14:04,500
talked about it there's been too many

1792
01:14:08,209 --> 01:14:05,880
rumors of it

1793
01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:08,219
and and you know is this the case in

1794
01:14:12,890 --> 01:14:10,080
forest fires and everything else yeah

1795
01:14:14,570 --> 01:14:12,900
maybe possibly I haven't heard that you

1796
01:14:15,709 --> 01:14:14,580
know in other natural disasters but I

1797
01:14:17,649 --> 01:14:15,719
have heard it in regards to Mount St

1798
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:17,659
Helens

1799
01:14:24,110 --> 01:14:21,120
they um uh there's uh you you know The

1800
01:14:25,729 --> 01:14:24,120
Black Vault right John Greenwald yes

1801
01:14:28,250 --> 01:14:25,739
okay

1802
01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:28,260
he has got

1803
01:14:34,850 --> 01:14:31,560
um and I've I've talked to him about uh

1804
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:34,860
this specific document he there's a

1805
01:14:42,070 --> 01:14:37,920
there was a page in the it's like the

1806
01:14:47,390 --> 01:14:42,080
ranger handbook right about uh

1807
01:14:52,189 --> 01:14:47,400
FBI DNA analysis uh that was done

1808
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:52,199
approving Bigfoot right and then the

1809
01:14:59,330 --> 01:14:56,640
page is missing in the manual in the

1810
01:15:02,990 --> 01:14:59,340
field manual now he's got the original

1811
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:03,000
right can't foia this it's like no it

1812
01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:04,080
doesn't exist what do you mean it

1813
01:15:11,930 --> 01:15:08,159
doesn't exist here it is yeah yeah right

1814
01:15:16,610 --> 01:15:11,940
um what do you make of of that and why

1815
01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:16,620
would the the the feds

1816
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:18,320
um be so

1817
01:15:26,169 --> 01:15:23,520
determined to keep this down right to to

1818
01:15:30,050 --> 01:15:26,179
to keep Bigfoot

1819
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:30,060
paranormal right to keep that in the

1820
01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:33,360
crypto side of zoology there's two I

1821
01:15:36,010 --> 01:15:35,040
think there's two different answers here

1822
01:15:40,250 --> 01:15:36,020
the

1823
01:15:43,189 --> 01:15:40,260
think

1824
01:15:44,990 --> 01:15:43,199
they're keeping it quiet this is this is

1825
01:15:46,490 --> 01:15:45,000
let me let me backtrack that for a

1826
01:15:48,410 --> 01:15:46,500
second

1827
01:15:49,729 --> 01:15:48,420
um I think the bigger picture actually

1828
01:15:51,709 --> 01:15:49,739
let's talk about the bigger picture

1829
01:15:54,770 --> 01:15:51,719
first I think the bigger picture of them

1830
01:15:55,850 --> 01:15:54,780
keeping it quiet is because it could

1831
01:15:58,250 --> 01:15:55,860
cause

1832
01:16:00,290 --> 01:15:58,260
harm to some of the smaller towns some

1833
01:16:02,209 --> 01:16:00,300
of the recreational areas and we talk

1834
01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:02,219
about this in the movie

1835
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:04,080
um it could cause harm to some of these

1836
01:16:07,970 --> 01:16:06,080
small areas that depend on

1837
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:07,980
recreationists especially here in the

1838
01:16:11,810 --> 01:16:10,080
state of Oregon to utilize national

1839
01:16:13,370 --> 01:16:11,820
forests to utilize state parks to

1840
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:13,380
utilize national parks so on and so

1841
01:16:18,110 --> 01:16:15,360
forth I think I think you know a lot of

1842
01:16:20,090 --> 01:16:18,120
people don't really wouldn't feel great

1843
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:20,100
about wandering around a forest that

1844
01:16:24,590 --> 01:16:22,800
there is nothing and tourism tourism

1845
01:16:26,330 --> 01:16:24,600
would go down I think I think well

1846
01:16:28,490 --> 01:16:26,340
there's that and there's there's like

1847
01:16:30,050 --> 01:16:28,500
you said opportunities in quote unquote

1848
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:30,060
treasure Hunters who would go out there

1849
01:16:35,630 --> 01:16:32,159
and try and bag the first Bigfoot and

1850
01:16:38,570 --> 01:16:35,640
and find Fame and Fortune you know as as

1851
01:16:39,709 --> 01:16:38,580
the Neil Armstrong of Bigfoot bagging or

1852
01:16:41,630 --> 01:16:39,719
whatever you want to call it I mean

1853
01:16:43,729 --> 01:16:41,640
there's there's all kinds of really

1854
01:16:45,410 --> 01:16:43,739
wacky people and

1855
01:16:46,850 --> 01:16:45,420
so that's the first reason the second

1856
01:16:50,090 --> 01:16:46,860
reason I think they're keeping it quiet

1857
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,100
is is the Paranormal abilities

1858
01:16:54,350 --> 01:16:51,840
um I think that you know

1859
01:16:56,270 --> 01:16:54,360
to answer your question directly the

1860
01:16:59,090 --> 01:16:56,280
government kind of let

1861
01:17:01,310 --> 01:16:59,100
the cat out of the bag with that piece

1862
01:17:02,689 --> 01:17:01,320
of paper you know with that thing and

1863
01:17:04,490 --> 01:17:02,699
and then with the US Army Corps of

1864
01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:04,500
Engineers manual

1865
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,719
um the 1970s it was describing different

1866
01:17:09,770 --> 01:17:08,400
animals and I was like oh the Bigfoot's

1867
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:09,780
one of the animals you might come across

1868
01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:12,480
in the forest and then and then a few

1869
01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:13,920
people were like whoa you're admitting

1870
01:17:18,530 --> 01:17:15,600
to Bigfoot being real and they're kind

1871
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,540
of like well yeah no yeah no maybe that

1872
01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:20,880
was a joke yeah that was a joke you know

1873
01:17:27,290 --> 01:17:22,320
so that's a famous story we have the

1874
01:17:29,570 --> 01:17:27,300
headline in um in our film it flashes by

1875
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:29,580
I think that that you know they did that

1876
01:17:33,770 --> 01:17:31,440
at thinking that you know here we go we

1877
01:17:36,950 --> 01:17:33,780
got a we got a hairy primate creature

1878
01:17:38,330 --> 01:17:36,960
ape thing you know wood ape wandering

1879
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:38,340
around the woods and then I think at

1880
01:17:41,930 --> 01:17:39,360
some point or another somebody

1881
01:17:44,149 --> 01:17:41,940
discovered that this thing is far more

1882
01:17:47,649 --> 01:17:44,159
powerful than

1883
01:17:55,250 --> 01:17:47,659
a monkey you know what I mean mm-hmm

1884
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:55,260
the um uh the scenes with uh excuse me

1885
01:18:03,649 --> 01:17:58,320
I had to use the cough button

1886
01:18:06,770 --> 01:18:03,659
um with Kyle now Kyle is uh a pseudonym

1887
01:18:08,570 --> 01:18:06,780
I'm I'm assuming because his name is is

1888
01:18:14,270 --> 01:18:08,580
in quotes and it's just a first name

1889
01:18:16,850 --> 01:18:14,280
right yes but he's uh he or was he was a

1890
01:18:18,729 --> 01:18:16,860
ranger right he was an Army Ranger he

1891
01:18:23,630 --> 01:18:18,739
was a

1892
01:18:25,850 --> 01:18:23,640
intelligence analyst

1893
01:18:27,649 --> 01:18:25,860
um and you know it took us about four

1894
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:27,659
months to get him to agree to come onto

1895
01:18:33,290 --> 01:18:30,000
camera in that capacity

1896
01:18:35,649 --> 01:18:33,300
and why okay

1897
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:35,659
what does he say uh

1898
01:18:41,930 --> 01:18:39,360
he okay what does he say

1899
01:18:44,930 --> 01:18:41,940
s basically he says

1900
01:18:48,290 --> 01:18:44,940
that the US government has a program of

1901
01:18:50,330 --> 01:18:48,300
train snipers to eliminate problem

1902
01:18:52,370 --> 01:18:50,340
animals

1903
01:18:54,610 --> 01:18:52,380
um up and around National Forest sites

1904
01:18:57,530 --> 01:18:54,620
where I'm at St Helens Mount Rainier

1905
01:18:59,750 --> 01:18:57,540
and if these Bigfoot get too comfortable

1906
01:19:01,490 --> 01:18:59,760
with humans then they are eliminated

1907
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:01,500
that's basically what he's saying and

1908
01:19:04,669 --> 01:19:02,880
then the carcass is taken to

1909
01:19:08,209 --> 01:19:04,679
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base

1910
01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:08,219
he dropped that bomb right right

1911
01:19:21,050 --> 01:19:17,750
we all know yeah you know where uh

1912
01:19:23,149 --> 01:19:21,060
Wright Patterson is and and and what

1913
01:19:26,750 --> 01:19:23,159
it's famous for

1914
01:19:28,970 --> 01:19:26,760
um and to have somebody of Kai I'm just

1915
01:19:31,490 --> 01:19:28,980
gonna say Kyle because that's his name

1916
01:19:36,229 --> 01:19:31,500
in the movie uh for him to say it like

1917
01:19:37,970 --> 01:19:36,239
this and and so matter of factly

1918
01:19:40,370 --> 01:19:37,980
um when you're in the Army you've got a

1919
01:19:42,370 --> 01:19:40,380
job that's your job yep and and you go

1920
01:19:45,729 --> 01:19:42,380
and you do your job and in this case

1921
01:19:50,090 --> 01:19:45,739
it's to control the Bigfoot population

1922
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:50,100
yep and Jimmy I have seen you know these

1923
01:19:52,910 --> 01:19:51,600
are things that we can't put in our film

1924
01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:52,920
because we can't get permission because

1925
01:19:56,330 --> 01:19:54,840
people don't want to get in trouble I've

1926
01:19:57,890 --> 01:19:56,340
seen clear footage of a helicopter

1927
01:20:01,209 --> 01:19:57,900
tracking one

1928
01:20:03,649 --> 01:20:01,219
and I've also heard other reports of

1929
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:03,659
units in other parts of the country I'm

1930
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:05,280
not even going to say where but other

1931
01:20:08,510 --> 01:20:06,719
parts in the country where they have

1932
01:20:09,890 --> 01:20:08,520
done the exact same thing that they've

1933
01:20:12,050 --> 01:20:09,900
taken these

1934
01:20:15,290 --> 01:20:12,060
specimens if you will out of the wild

1935
01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:15,300
you know these Elite Sniper units

1936
01:20:20,930 --> 01:20:18,719
um and I used to be a DOD contractor I

1937
01:20:22,430 --> 01:20:20,940
did I did documentary work for the

1938
01:20:23,870 --> 01:20:22,440
Department of Defense I worked in the

1939
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:23,880
Pentagon for a while this was a short

1940
01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:25,199
time

1941
01:20:30,169 --> 01:20:28,800
um in the early 2000s and um you know a

1942
01:20:31,790 --> 01:20:30,179
lot of the things that these people are

1943
01:20:33,950 --> 01:20:31,800
saying

1944
01:20:36,350 --> 01:20:33,960
um track with my knowledge I was never

1945
01:20:38,450 --> 01:20:36,360
in the military but I I learned enough

1946
01:20:40,430 --> 01:20:38,460
from being around these folks

1947
01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:40,440
to know that you know a lot of the

1948
01:20:45,290 --> 01:20:43,440
details there that you look for

1949
01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:45,300
um are pretty authentic you know and the

1950
01:20:49,430 --> 01:20:47,520
same same is true with Kyle in in what

1951
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,440
he had to say I've never heard anybody

1952
01:20:53,689 --> 01:20:51,360
else say that they were taking bodies to

1953
01:20:55,310 --> 01:20:53,699
write Patterson Air Force Base

1954
01:20:58,850 --> 01:20:55,320
um but the other thing interesting thing

1955
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:58,860
I'll say about Kyle is that he was

1956
01:21:02,810 --> 01:21:01,199
chosen as a person to have be able to

1957
01:21:04,669 --> 01:21:02,820
have eyes on this and be part of this

1958
01:21:05,870 --> 01:21:04,679
operation because he had a sighting at

1959
01:21:07,490 --> 01:21:05,880
13.

1960
01:21:10,010 --> 01:21:07,500
we didn't have time to get into it in

1961
01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:10,020
the documentary but he was up um

1962
01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:11,760
in an area I believe called Indian

1963
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:13,440
Heaven which you might be familiar with

1964
01:21:18,770 --> 01:21:16,800
near Mount Adams and he was fishing he's

1965
01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:18,780
about 13 years old and he heard a grunt

1966
01:21:24,130 --> 01:21:20,219
and he turned around

1967
01:21:27,590 --> 01:21:24,140
and there again was a mother Sasquatch

1968
01:21:30,410 --> 01:21:27,600
showing her teeth and grunting at him

1969
01:21:32,990 --> 01:21:30,420
and he saw a juvenile one run away

1970
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:33,000
and he felt a little bit of like a

1971
01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:34,800
mind-speak kind of a thing saying you

1972
01:21:38,090 --> 01:21:36,360
were not wanted here you need to leave

1973
01:21:41,570 --> 01:21:38,100
you need to leave now

1974
01:21:43,310 --> 01:21:41,580
and um it caused he says that it caused

1975
01:21:45,950 --> 01:21:43,320
a lot of psychological damage to him up

1976
01:21:48,350 --> 01:21:45,960
to through his twenties

1977
01:21:50,689 --> 01:21:48,360
um but anyways he ended up joining the

1978
01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:50,699
Army he was shot a couple of times in

1979
01:21:55,250 --> 01:21:52,080
service

1980
01:21:57,470 --> 01:21:55,260
um that's about all I can say about him

1981
01:21:58,669 --> 01:21:57,480
um but I believe I believe what he has

1982
01:22:02,209 --> 01:21:58,679
to say is real

1983
01:22:04,550 --> 01:22:02,219
the uh the telepathic side of this I've

1984
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:04,560
done quite a few interviews uh with

1985
01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:08,159
Bigfoot researchers uh about this and

1986
01:22:13,370 --> 01:22:11,280
the use of uh psychics and psychic

1987
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:13,380
mediums and people with a psychic

1988
01:22:22,610 --> 01:22:17,280
abilities uh to communicate and and

1989
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:22,620
track uh with Bigfoot and it is it's

1990
01:22:27,530 --> 01:22:24,960
this part did they jump start us on

1991
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:27,540
evolution is is where I'm going with

1992
01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:30,239
this right we haven't developed

1993
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:33,840
right the ability to just do this where

1994
01:22:42,290 --> 01:22:37,199
we communicate that way but it seems

1995
01:22:44,810 --> 01:22:42,300
that Bigfoot has that ability is is this

1996
01:22:47,750 --> 01:22:44,820
where is this the direction your

1997
01:22:49,010 --> 01:22:47,760
research is headed yeah yeah and you say

1998
01:22:50,450 --> 01:22:49,020
that we don't have the ability and I

1999
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:50,460
don't know I don't know about that the

2000
01:22:53,750 --> 01:22:52,320
jury's still kind of out because we have

2001
01:22:57,649 --> 01:22:53,760
the ability to receive even send

2002
01:23:00,950 --> 01:22:57,659
messages when when they talk to us and

2003
01:23:02,990 --> 01:23:00,960
not not everybody does

2004
01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:03,000
um we've spoken to some people and and

2005
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,560
and some people are giving us different

2006
01:23:08,630 --> 01:23:06,719
accounts so like they'll see images

2007
01:23:11,090 --> 01:23:08,640
in their head that are as clear as day

2008
01:23:13,070 --> 01:23:11,100
like you're dreaming or even more

2009
01:23:15,890 --> 01:23:13,080
vibrant than that or they will actually

2010
01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:15,900
hear a voice say things

2011
01:23:19,370 --> 01:23:17,280
um so it's different depending on who

2012
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:19,380
you talk to yeah but that's coming at

2013
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:22,560
you okay so Bigfoot has the ability

2014
01:23:29,930 --> 01:23:25,920
right to right yeah

2015
01:23:32,570 --> 01:23:29,940
to Wi-Fi in a signal yeah we don't have

2016
01:23:34,250 --> 01:23:32,580
the gift of the two-way communication no

2017
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:34,260
no not with other humans not with other

2018
01:23:37,970 --> 01:23:35,760
humans but people can talk to the

2019
01:23:40,850 --> 01:23:37,980
Bigfoot and answer them back so so

2020
01:23:42,169 --> 01:23:40,860
there's something there's some chip I

2021
01:23:45,830 --> 01:23:42,179
don't know what you want to call it a

2022
01:23:48,050 --> 01:23:45,840
processor in our brain that you know

2023
01:23:50,330 --> 01:23:48,060
um is capable of doing it capable of

2024
01:23:51,530 --> 01:23:50,340
sending and receiving and again just to

2025
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:51,540
go back to the science of all this

2026
01:23:56,330 --> 01:23:53,040
because this all of this sounds so crazy

2027
01:23:59,689 --> 01:23:56,340
and absurd is that we are all you know

2028
01:24:01,550 --> 01:23:59,699
made of atoms there's only there's 92

2029
01:24:04,610 --> 01:24:01,560
atoms in the known universe that's it

2030
01:24:06,590 --> 01:24:04,620
that's it 92 atoms make up everything

2031
01:24:08,750 --> 01:24:06,600
you see touch and feel you eat whatever

2032
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:08,760
it's your wrist watch it's your sandwich

2033
01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:12,239
you know what I mean and and so if you

2034
01:24:16,729 --> 01:24:15,060
learn how to manipulate those atoms

2035
01:24:19,010 --> 01:24:16,739
those molecules so on and so forth you

2036
01:24:20,570 --> 01:24:19,020
can do crazy things you know I heard you

2037
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:20,580
guys talking you and Dave talking about

2038
01:24:25,130 --> 01:24:23,520
this last night but this beam in uh

2039
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:25,140
Antarctica you know this guy's talking

2040
01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:27,600
about communication

2041
01:24:32,030 --> 01:24:29,760
um there's just some really really wild

2042
01:24:33,890 --> 01:24:32,040
stuff you know quantum entanglement and

2043
01:24:35,209 --> 01:24:33,900
spooky action at a distance and these

2044
01:24:37,250 --> 01:24:35,219
things these theories that you get into

2045
01:24:39,050 --> 01:24:37,260
in quantum physics

2046
01:24:42,050 --> 01:24:39,060
um that that we're just starting to

2047
01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:42,060
figure out that I think that that's how

2048
01:24:46,729 --> 01:24:44,159
the tele you know

2049
01:24:48,770 --> 01:24:46,739
um the teleportation works that's how

2050
01:24:51,050 --> 01:24:48,780
the mind speak works that's how the

2051
01:24:54,709 --> 01:24:51,060
cloaking works

2052
01:24:56,530 --> 01:24:54,719
um human beings only see one percent one

2053
01:24:59,270 --> 01:24:56,540
percent of the available light spectrum

2054
01:25:01,970 --> 01:24:59,280
which means we can't see 99 of what's

2055
01:25:03,470 --> 01:25:01,980
happening around us there could be all

2056
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:03,480
kinds of invisible things living around

2057
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,040
us ghosts and

2058
01:25:09,950 --> 01:25:07,920
aliens and Bigfoot and who knows what

2059
01:25:12,250 --> 01:25:09,960
else do you remember the movie A

2060
01:25:17,630 --> 01:25:12,260
Fantastic Planet

2061
01:25:21,950 --> 01:25:17,640
probably getting a

2062
01:25:22,750 --> 01:25:21,960
um uh anyway where

2063
01:25:25,490 --> 01:25:22,760
um

2064
01:25:27,470 --> 01:25:25,500
1957 I think the film came out oh

2065
01:25:30,169 --> 01:25:27,480
Forbidden Planet yeah Forbidden Planet

2066
01:25:32,330 --> 01:25:30,179
yeah yeah one of my favorite movies I

2067
01:25:34,250 --> 01:25:32,340
should be shot for messing that up I've

2068
01:25:37,850 --> 01:25:34,260
never seen it

2069
01:25:38,649 --> 01:25:37,860
okay well but here's the thing they

2070
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:38,659
um

2071
01:25:44,990 --> 01:25:42,480
The Entity that they are fighting with

2072
01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:45,000
was

2073
01:25:57,410 --> 01:25:53,760
it's it's it's created by the ID by the

2074
01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:57,420
mind yeah interesting right and and it's

2075
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:00,960
in another dimension right and it I I

2076
01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:05,040
have no issues with that no I mean just

2077
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:08,880
a fraction of a number in one direction

2078
01:26:15,470 --> 01:26:12,480
of uh or the other from what we can see

2079
01:26:19,550 --> 01:26:15,480
here touch and feel there could be a

2080
01:26:22,490 --> 01:26:19,560
whole another version of us living yeah

2081
01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:22,500
oh yeah absolutely absolutely and and

2082
01:26:26,689 --> 01:26:24,800
that's mainstream science right now

2083
01:26:28,430 --> 01:26:26,699
parallel universes you know

2084
01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:28,440
multi-universes in every single movie

2085
01:26:31,910 --> 01:26:30,480
that comes out every superhero movie Now

2086
01:26:34,129 --> 01:26:31,920
Is Multiverse it's like they're trying

2087
01:26:37,490 --> 01:26:34,139
to tell us something you know what I

2088
01:26:41,090 --> 01:26:37,500
mean yes yes yes the

2089
01:26:43,610 --> 01:26:41,100
um uh I I wanted to kind of Save The

2090
01:26:47,390 --> 01:26:43,620
Best For Last and and have you discuss

2091
01:26:50,570 --> 01:26:47,400
some of your favorite uh uh cases uh

2092
01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:50,580
that you uh not only put it in the film

2093
01:26:56,510 --> 01:26:52,320
but you've done a lot of interviewing

2094
01:26:58,010 --> 01:26:56,520
and and uh and and researching out there

2095
01:27:00,950 --> 01:26:58,020
with different people so I wanted to get

2096
01:27:05,090 --> 01:27:00,960
into that a little bit but there's also

2097
01:27:07,970 --> 01:27:05,100
a lot of Bigfoot researchers out there

2098
01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:07,980
um have you been following them or are

2099
01:27:12,169 --> 01:27:10,320
you just doing your own thing I'm kind

2100
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:12,179
of doing my own thing we're kind of

2101
01:27:15,410 --> 01:27:13,440
doing our own thing I mean there's

2102
01:27:17,330 --> 01:27:15,420
there's a lot of quote-unquote noise

2103
01:27:19,610 --> 01:27:17,340
that's out there too and we want to

2104
01:27:22,610 --> 01:27:19,620
which we just want to try and stay on a

2105
01:27:23,689 --> 01:27:22,620
certain path and it's easy especially in

2106
01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:23,699
any Community it doesn't matter whether

2107
01:27:28,490 --> 01:27:27,120
it's Bigfoot UFO or Bingo Players it

2108
01:27:30,590 --> 01:27:28,500
doesn't matter but there's there's

2109
01:27:32,510 --> 01:27:30,600
politics in communities and it's like we

2110
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:32,520
we want to just try and keep our voices

2111
01:27:37,910 --> 01:27:34,800
neutral as absolutely possible and

2112
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:37,920
that's almost impossible to do of course

2113
01:27:43,310 --> 01:27:41,040
but um you know I try and read as much

2114
01:27:44,810 --> 01:27:43,320
as I possibly can about what's happening

2115
01:27:46,970 --> 01:27:44,820
and try and stay abreast about what's

2116
01:27:49,070 --> 01:27:46,980
happening but at the end of the day

2117
01:27:50,990 --> 01:27:49,080
like we just we want to feature real

2118
01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:51,000
people ordinary people having

2119
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:53,280
extraordinary experiences

2120
01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:54,719
you know and that's what we're going to

2121
01:28:00,169 --> 01:27:57,360
continue to do

2122
01:28:02,209 --> 01:28:00,179
um so what about

2123
01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:02,219
the crossover

2124
01:28:07,370 --> 01:28:04,800
you know I've done thousands of shows

2125
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:07,380
okay I have

2126
01:28:13,070 --> 01:28:10,320
and you you collect this information and

2127
01:28:14,930 --> 01:28:13,080
and and you hear things and and you you

2128
01:28:17,990 --> 01:28:14,940
know you put it in a box and you put it

2129
01:28:21,950 --> 01:28:18,000
on the Shelf later somebody says

2130
01:28:24,830 --> 01:28:21,960
something I go wait uh uh oh right yeah

2131
01:28:28,669 --> 01:28:24,840
you start to see this

2132
01:28:30,709 --> 01:28:28,679
um I'm sure with Bigfoot experiences you

2133
01:28:32,750 --> 01:28:30,719
know these very consistent things from

2134
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:32,760
people that don't know each other yeah

2135
01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:35,280
what are some of those crossover points

2136
01:28:42,590 --> 01:28:38,159
oh my goodness that's a tough question

2137
01:28:46,669 --> 01:28:44,270
I don't even know how to respond to that

2138
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:46,679
honestly

2139
01:28:51,050 --> 01:28:49,199
I'm just I'm we're it's it's what's

2140
01:28:53,629 --> 01:28:51,060
interesting to me Jimmy's I'm seeing the

2141
01:28:56,330 --> 01:28:53,639
crossover points at the UFOs

2142
01:28:58,129 --> 01:28:56,340
honestly I keep hearing you know in in

2143
01:28:59,689 --> 01:28:58,139
orbs we haven't even started we haven't

2144
01:29:03,050 --> 01:28:59,699
even talked about the orbs yet

2145
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:03,060
the orbs in the UFOs I I keep hearing

2146
01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:05,760
that here's an interesting story for you

2147
01:29:10,370 --> 01:29:08,159
quick interesting story so when we first

2148
01:29:11,990 --> 01:29:10,380
started doing this documentary this was

2149
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,000
during the pandemic this this project

2150
01:29:16,550 --> 01:29:14,880
was born from the pandemic because we

2151
01:29:20,090 --> 01:29:16,560
weren't bringing in any business like

2152
01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:20,100
everybody else and so Jill and I said to

2153
01:29:24,050 --> 01:29:22,320
ourselves the co-producer or the

2154
01:29:25,729 --> 01:29:24,060
producer I'm sorry writer and producer

2155
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:25,739
we said well what are we going to do now

2156
01:29:30,050 --> 01:29:27,600
let's do the Bigfoot documentary that's

2157
01:29:32,030 --> 01:29:30,060
what we're gonna do so what a better way

2158
01:29:35,510 --> 01:29:32,040
to avoid everything than to go out into

2159
01:29:36,890 --> 01:29:35,520
the woods right so we thought okay we'll

2160
01:29:38,689 --> 01:29:36,900
do a Bigfoot documentary and we should

2161
01:29:40,970 --> 01:29:38,699
do that ghost documentary because we've

2162
01:29:42,830 --> 01:29:40,980
had ghost experiences and we should do

2163
01:29:44,570 --> 01:29:42,840
that UFO documentary and at about that

2164
01:29:45,229 --> 01:29:44,580
same time we read this book

2165
01:29:47,930 --> 01:29:45,239
um

2166
01:29:49,250 --> 01:29:47,940
about the 39th parallel and about all

2167
01:29:51,649 --> 01:29:49,260
the weird things that have happened on

2168
01:29:53,410 --> 01:29:51,659
the 39th parallel and it's written by

2169
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:53,420
Chuck I can't remember Chuck's last name

2170
01:30:00,350 --> 01:29:58,729
great book

2171
01:30:03,649 --> 01:30:00,360
um it wasn't written by him it was

2172
01:30:09,010 --> 01:30:03,659
written by Ben um anyways read it it's

2173
01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:09,020
an awesome book he was on the show okay

2174
01:30:19,610 --> 01:30:17,750
amazing guys so we read this book and

2175
01:30:21,770 --> 01:30:19,620
we're like oh yeah that would be cool to

2176
01:30:23,689 --> 01:30:21,780
actually to drive the 39th parallel so

2177
01:30:25,189 --> 01:30:23,699
on and so forth so

2178
01:30:26,930 --> 01:30:25,199
um about this scene time there were

2179
01:30:28,970 --> 01:30:26,940
reports coming out of Eastern Oregon of

2180
01:30:31,250 --> 01:30:28,980
cattle mutilations

2181
01:30:34,610 --> 01:30:31,260
lots of them I mean we're talking about

2182
01:30:37,370 --> 01:30:34,620
like prized bowls 10 head of cattle I

2183
01:30:38,870 --> 01:30:37,380
mean the whole nine yards and so

2184
01:30:40,129 --> 01:30:38,880
um I was like well let's try and get a

2185
01:30:43,790 --> 01:30:40,139
hold of these ranchers and see if he'll

2186
01:30:45,649 --> 01:30:43,800
talk so we got a hold of this guy

2187
01:30:48,830 --> 01:30:45,659
um out in this little tiny tiny town

2188
01:30:50,390 --> 01:30:48,840
called Brothers which is in between Bend

2189
01:30:52,129 --> 01:30:50,400
Oregon and Burns Oregon it's like right

2190
01:30:53,390 --> 01:30:52,139
in the middle and it's it's literally

2191
01:30:55,910 --> 01:30:53,400
there's literally nothing there there's

2192
01:30:57,649 --> 01:30:55,920
not even really a store there there's a

2193
01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:57,659
store that in restaurant that have shut

2194
01:31:01,490 --> 01:30:58,560
down

2195
01:31:04,490 --> 01:31:01,500
and it's you know it's literally like

2196
01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:04,500
Sagebrush and rocks

2197
01:31:09,649 --> 01:31:07,920
um and dust devils and so we we

2198
01:31:11,390 --> 01:31:09,659
contacted him he said he'd be willing to

2199
01:31:13,310 --> 01:31:11,400
talk to us and so

2200
01:31:15,470 --> 01:31:13,320
um this is this is concurrent with some

2201
01:31:18,770 --> 01:31:15,480
of the Bigfoot filming that we're doing

2202
01:31:20,870 --> 01:31:18,780
so a few weeks prior to that we were

2203
01:31:22,790 --> 01:31:20,880
down um just outside of Cottage Grove

2204
01:31:25,310 --> 01:31:22,800
Oregon in the Owl Moon lab which is

2205
01:31:27,470 --> 01:31:25,320
something we haven't even discussed yet

2206
01:31:29,689 --> 01:31:27,480
um and we were doing some film filming

2207
01:31:31,490 --> 01:31:29,699
with co-producer Tob Johnson and Daryl

2208
01:31:34,010 --> 01:31:31,500
Daryl Adams

2209
01:31:36,590 --> 01:31:34,020
and so long story short we went out we

2210
01:31:37,729 --> 01:31:36,600
did this cattle mutilation piece and we

2211
01:31:39,470 --> 01:31:37,739
interviewed the Rancher and stuff like

2212
01:31:40,729 --> 01:31:39,480
that and I and I thought to myself I

2213
01:31:42,410 --> 01:31:40,739
wonder if there's any correlation

2214
01:31:45,530 --> 01:31:42,420
between what's happening at the AL Moon

2215
01:31:46,669 --> 01:31:45,540
Wilderness which was a cornucopia of

2216
01:31:50,750 --> 01:31:46,679
anything and everything you'd imagine

2217
01:31:53,689 --> 01:31:50,760
from UFOs orbs Bigfoot gifting

2218
01:31:55,310 --> 01:31:53,699
weird voices Things That Go Bump in the

2219
01:31:56,570 --> 01:31:55,320
dark you name it

2220
01:31:58,550 --> 01:31:56,580
I was wondering if there's any

2221
01:32:00,770 --> 01:31:58,560
correlation to this cattle mutilation in

2222
01:32:02,390 --> 01:32:00,780
in Cottage Grove and so I went onto a

2223
01:32:06,290 --> 01:32:02,400
map to see if I could find anything

2224
01:32:07,970 --> 01:32:06,300
similar and I literally drew a line from

2225
01:32:09,950 --> 01:32:07,980
Cottage Grove right to the cattle

2226
01:32:12,590 --> 01:32:09,960
mutilation site like you could put a

2227
01:32:13,910 --> 01:32:12,600
ruler on it it was perfect it was a

2228
01:32:15,410 --> 01:32:13,920
perfect line of going what's happening

2229
01:32:17,629 --> 01:32:15,420
on this

2230
01:32:19,010 --> 01:32:17,639
this line what's going on here you know

2231
01:32:21,229 --> 01:32:19,020
what I mean it was too much of a

2232
01:32:22,970 --> 01:32:21,239
coincidence to ignore

2233
01:32:25,070 --> 01:32:22,980
um again we didn't have enough time to

2234
01:32:28,010 --> 01:32:25,080
put that in the film or into the next

2235
01:32:30,229 --> 01:32:28,020
film but I thought that was super super

2236
01:32:33,470 --> 01:32:30,239
interesting so there's definitely

2237
01:32:38,930 --> 01:32:33,480
definitely crossover happening

2238
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:38,940
the um uh uh he started to tell uh the

2239
01:32:46,850 --> 01:32:43,199
story though on on okay so yeah with uh

2240
01:32:49,790 --> 01:32:46,860
who you were going out to meet well yeah

2241
01:32:51,770 --> 01:32:49,800
I'll I'll tell that story real quick um

2242
01:32:54,470 --> 01:32:51,780
so we go out and we interview this Aunt

2243
01:32:55,370 --> 01:32:54,480
this Rancher we interviewed his um his

2244
01:32:56,450 --> 01:32:55,380
his

2245
01:32:58,490 --> 01:32:56,460
um

2246
01:33:00,950 --> 01:32:58,500
ranch hand sorry

2247
01:33:02,510 --> 01:33:00,960
um and we actually drove out to the site

2248
01:33:04,010 --> 01:33:02,520
of where the Bones still were of this

2249
01:33:06,410 --> 01:33:04,020
cattle they've been mutilated and it's

2250
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:06,420
10 miles literally 10 miles down this

2251
01:33:11,450 --> 01:33:09,600
Lake insanely bumpy Gravel Road and the

2252
01:33:13,010 --> 01:33:11,460
ranchers like in the in the the ranch

2253
01:33:14,689 --> 01:33:13,020
hand are like yeah you know Satan

2254
01:33:17,030 --> 01:33:14,699
worshipers you know come out here cut

2255
01:33:19,310 --> 01:33:17,040
out the precisely cut out the tong and

2256
01:33:20,990 --> 01:33:19,320
precisely cut out the utter and and the

2257
01:33:22,910 --> 01:33:21,000
Animals won't go near it but we we're

2258
01:33:25,610 --> 01:33:22,920
pretty sure it was Satan worshipers and

2259
01:33:27,709 --> 01:33:25,620
we're like okay yeah no whatever and the

2260
01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:27,719
ranch hands like sitting there going you

2261
01:33:31,490 --> 01:33:30,000
know when I found her you know she was

2262
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:31,500
laying here and none of the cattle

2263
01:33:34,490 --> 01:33:33,120
wanted anything to do with her and there

2264
01:33:35,750 --> 01:33:34,500
was no birds picking at her and I

2265
01:33:36,590 --> 01:33:35,760
thought that was weird and I got down

2266
01:33:42,709 --> 01:33:36,600
and

2267
01:33:44,510 --> 01:33:42,719
hours 36 hours I was like sick to my

2268
01:33:46,729 --> 01:33:44,520
stomach with some weird virus but it was

2269
01:33:48,830 --> 01:33:46,739
Satan worshipers

2270
01:33:51,470 --> 01:33:48,840
and so finally like we're interviewing

2271
01:33:53,870 --> 01:33:51,480
him and um

2272
01:33:55,490 --> 01:33:53,880
and I go you ever see weird lights in

2273
01:33:57,590 --> 01:33:55,500
the sky and he's like

2274
01:33:59,270 --> 01:33:57,600
you know actually come to think of it we

2275
01:34:00,350 --> 01:33:59,280
do see some weird lights in the sky out

2276
01:34:04,070 --> 01:34:00,360
here but those might be military

2277
01:34:05,870 --> 01:34:04,080
operations or whatever and Jill and and

2278
01:34:08,149 --> 01:34:05,880
Mike our cinematographer and I were just

2279
01:34:11,030 --> 01:34:08,159
looking at each other going aliens man

2280
01:34:13,070 --> 01:34:11,040
it's like the easiest explanation to

2281
01:34:14,810 --> 01:34:13,080
Precision they're not Satan worshipers

2282
01:34:16,970 --> 01:34:14,820
they're not Satan worshipers you know

2283
01:34:18,350 --> 01:34:16,980
it's like you know what no Satan

2284
01:34:19,790 --> 01:34:18,360
worshiper is going to have the means to

2285
01:34:22,970 --> 01:34:19,800
drive down this road at night without

2286
01:34:26,649 --> 01:34:22,980
headlights to not be detected to to get

2287
01:34:30,890 --> 01:34:26,659
a tongue and an udder and sexual organs

2288
01:34:32,990 --> 01:34:30,900
off of a 2 000 pound Beast yeah exactly

2289
01:34:34,910 --> 01:34:33,000
I mean how are you putting this thing

2290
01:34:35,930 --> 01:34:34,920
down to begin with how do you know it's

2291
01:34:37,610 --> 01:34:35,940
like

2292
01:34:40,010 --> 01:34:37,620
you know these people and then and then

2293
01:34:42,649 --> 01:34:40,020
we read a report you know months later

2294
01:34:44,510 --> 01:34:42,659
that somebody came out from band some

2295
01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:44,520
some research or a veterinarian who was

2296
01:34:49,250 --> 01:34:47,280
like it was Birds literally that was his

2297
01:34:50,810 --> 01:34:49,260
explanation is that birds did it and

2298
01:34:53,570 --> 01:34:50,820
it's just like

2299
01:34:55,070 --> 01:34:53,580
we we got out of the car and we walked

2300
01:34:55,850 --> 01:34:55,080
over to these bones that were sitting

2301
01:34:59,270 --> 01:34:55,860
there

2302
01:35:02,270 --> 01:34:59,280
and you just knew man you just knew you

2303
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:02,280
knew that something didn't feel right

2304
01:35:05,990 --> 01:35:04,260
something was off there was you know and

2305
01:35:08,810 --> 01:35:06,000
still this was five months after the

2306
01:35:10,729 --> 01:35:08,820
incident there was nothing no nothing

2307
01:35:12,350 --> 01:35:10,739
would go near it and the ranch had guy

2308
01:35:14,209 --> 01:35:12,360
he was like I never saw scavenger we

2309
01:35:16,669 --> 01:35:14,219
know it wasn't scavenged

2310
01:35:19,010 --> 01:35:16,679
the animal it's like if the animals that

2311
01:35:20,510 --> 01:35:19,020
are constantly looking for food aren't

2312
01:35:23,090 --> 01:35:20,520
going to eat at this

2313
01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:23,100
Prime Beef if they're not going to eat

2314
01:35:27,890 --> 01:35:25,440
it then you know something's wrong with

2315
01:35:29,930 --> 01:35:27,900
it right you know

2316
01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:29,940
and what's your what's your favorite

2317
01:35:36,110 --> 01:35:34,080
Story I mean you know I I I get that

2318
01:35:37,669 --> 01:35:36,120
question a lot hey Jimmy you know your

2319
01:35:41,149 --> 01:35:37,679
favorite interview what's just your

2320
01:35:43,129 --> 01:35:41,159
favorite moment and and I'm able there's

2321
01:35:47,750 --> 01:35:43,139
always a couple of things that always

2322
01:35:51,290 --> 01:35:47,760
stay on the front of my head for you and

2323
01:35:55,010 --> 01:35:51,300
making this doc uh what what are your

2324
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:55,020
favorite experiences of from some of the

2325
01:35:59,209 --> 01:35:58,080
uh interviews oh my gosh

2326
01:36:01,310 --> 01:35:59,219
um

2327
01:36:03,189 --> 01:36:01,320
my favorite story I can't talk about yet

2328
01:36:06,169 --> 01:36:03,199
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you that

2329
01:36:08,270 --> 01:36:06,179
they're all they're all they're all

2330
01:36:11,330 --> 01:36:08,280
equal do you want to know how good of a

2331
01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:14,810
you're gonna tell that story again I

2332
01:36:19,729 --> 01:36:16,560
guarantee if you're willing to have me

2333
01:36:21,410 --> 01:36:19,739
come back I'm gonna tell the story but I

2334
01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:21,420
want people to see the story first it's

2335
01:36:27,050 --> 01:36:24,780
coming out in the sequel what happened

2336
01:36:30,169 --> 01:36:27,060
well two guys down in southern Oregon

2337
01:36:32,629 --> 01:36:30,179
saw something that um and these guys are

2338
01:36:34,790 --> 01:36:32,639
as Earnest and as honest and as genuine

2339
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:34,800
as Chad and Austin they're like Chad and

2340
01:36:39,530 --> 01:36:36,239
Austin 2.0

2341
01:36:42,410 --> 01:36:39,540
and they they saw a Bigfoot do something

2342
01:36:44,689 --> 01:36:42,420
that is entirely unimaginable and

2343
01:36:47,330 --> 01:36:44,699
incomprehensible and I think it's it's

2344
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:47,340
going to shock a lot of people when

2345
01:36:53,570 --> 01:36:50,159
their story comes out and they

2346
01:36:55,610 --> 01:36:53,580
I that's all I'm gonna say because it's

2347
01:36:57,229 --> 01:36:55,620
an important part of the next film

2348
01:36:58,430 --> 01:36:57,239
but I'm happy to talk about any of the

2349
01:37:01,850 --> 01:36:58,440
other stories in the flash Beauty

2350
01:37:06,649 --> 01:37:04,450
no problem

2351
01:37:08,149 --> 01:37:06,659
was it legal

2352
01:37:10,669 --> 01:37:08,159
what they did

2353
01:37:13,610 --> 01:37:10,679
oh 100 they were just driving down the

2354
01:37:17,930 --> 01:37:13,620
road at 10 o'clock on uh Sunny November

2355
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:17,940
morning and yeah and and and that's that

2356
01:37:23,450 --> 01:37:21,600
yeah it's an extraordinary it's

2357
01:37:25,970 --> 01:37:23,460
extraordinary

2358
01:37:28,010 --> 01:37:25,980
and and the guy gave one he said I'm

2359
01:37:29,330 --> 01:37:28,020
giving you I'm giving one interview and

2360
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:29,340
this is it

2361
01:37:33,950 --> 01:37:31,679
he's but he's like I didn't believe in

2362
01:37:35,570 --> 01:37:33,960
any of this stuff but what I saw what I

2363
01:37:37,250 --> 01:37:35,580
saw that day people need to know about

2364
01:37:38,330 --> 01:37:37,260
they need to understand that this is out

2365
01:37:39,910 --> 01:37:38,340
there

2366
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:39,920
and

2367
01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:43,679
there is an area where where you're

2368
01:37:49,430 --> 01:37:46,800
talking about where there are some

2369
01:37:51,290 --> 01:37:49,440
pretty extraordinary claims coming out

2370
01:37:53,570 --> 01:37:51,300
of that area when it comes to Bigfoot

2371
01:37:56,450 --> 01:37:53,580
and spirituality and orbs and

2372
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:56,460
interplanetary and ET and communication

2373
01:38:02,629 --> 01:37:59,760
and yeah and how they live

2374
01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:02,639
um why do you think it is that area and

2375
01:38:06,290 --> 01:38:04,800
is that what the is that what happened

2376
01:38:08,689 --> 01:38:06,300
with these two

2377
01:38:10,250 --> 01:38:08,699
yeah so this is this area people will

2378
01:38:13,070 --> 01:38:10,260
know um you know one of my favorite

2379
01:38:14,750 --> 01:38:13,080
characters in a flashy beauty is Stan

2380
01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:14,760
Avery and you know he's the guy that

2381
01:38:18,830 --> 01:38:16,560
talks about the Bigfoot at the dump and

2382
01:38:23,570 --> 01:38:18,840
you know this is happening in this same

2383
01:38:25,910 --> 01:38:23,580
vicinity this this area is a hotbed of

2384
01:38:29,050 --> 01:38:25,920
activity and as as the crow flies you're

2385
01:38:33,169 --> 01:38:29,060
about maybe 50 miles west of Grants Pass

2386
01:38:35,209 --> 01:38:33,179
you're maybe 75 miles Northwest of

2387
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:35,219
Medford Oregon so it's all happening

2388
01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:38,159
kind of in this area I don't know what's

2389
01:38:43,550 --> 01:38:40,560
going on down there man but there is

2390
01:38:45,530 --> 01:38:43,560
something crazy going on I mean way

2391
01:38:47,570 --> 01:38:45,540
crazier stuff I talked to this guy the

2392
01:38:48,890 --> 01:38:47,580
other day and he says he's like oh my

2393
01:38:50,090 --> 01:38:48,900
neighbor came up to me he lives way out

2394
01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:50,100
in the country he says my neighbor came

2395
01:38:55,970 --> 01:38:53,280
out to me and he says um he says my wife

2396
01:38:57,890 --> 01:38:55,980
and kid watched a UFO hover over your

2397
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:57,900
house for 10 minutes

2398
01:39:01,550 --> 01:39:00,000
you know and he was like oh yeah like

2399
01:39:02,629 --> 01:39:01,560
you mean like a little glowing light or

2400
01:39:05,330 --> 01:39:02,639
something he's like no this thing was

2401
01:39:07,250 --> 01:39:05,340
huge it was hovering over your house

2402
01:39:08,810 --> 01:39:07,260
um you know people report black

2403
01:39:11,090 --> 01:39:08,820
helicopters in the middle of the night

2404
01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:11,100
out where they're not supposed to be

2405
01:39:15,590 --> 01:39:13,679
um and the Bigfoot sightings are

2406
01:39:17,450 --> 01:39:15,600
everywhere there's a trail cam photo of

2407
01:39:19,729 --> 01:39:17,460
a Bigfoot that's in our film that was

2408
01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:19,739
taken in that same area can we talk

2409
01:39:24,649 --> 01:39:21,840
about that for a second okay that was

2410
01:39:26,050 --> 01:39:24,659
that was one of the jump frames for me

2411
01:39:28,970 --> 01:39:26,060
right

2412
01:39:32,330 --> 01:39:28,980
and when

2413
01:39:34,790 --> 01:39:32,340
um oh okay let's just stop right there I

2414
01:39:38,629 --> 01:39:34,800
I can't believe I wanted to start the

2415
01:39:41,510 --> 01:39:38,639
show off with that trail cam uh okay

2416
01:39:43,209 --> 01:39:41,520
okay no I did and and here we are we're

2417
01:39:46,729 --> 01:39:43,219
at the end of the show

2418
01:39:49,070 --> 01:39:46,739
I'm so glad that you brought this up

2419
01:39:53,510 --> 01:39:49,080
um okay so you

2420
01:39:57,590 --> 01:39:53,520
um uh there's an overlay that's done yes

2421
01:40:01,689 --> 01:39:57,600
the trail cam okay to show

2422
01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:01,699
well I think one is is it a deer yeah

2423
01:40:07,070 --> 01:40:04,800
it's a deer and then the other shot

2424
01:40:09,770 --> 01:40:07,080
which is crazy town

2425
01:40:14,990 --> 01:40:09,780
where did you get it what's the story

2426
01:40:17,090 --> 01:40:15,000
behind this trail cam image okay so the

2427
01:40:18,770 --> 01:40:17,100
individual whose Trail Kim was did not

2428
01:40:20,810 --> 01:40:18,780
want to go on camera there's a lot of

2429
01:40:22,070 --> 01:40:20,820
people out there that just they want to

2430
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:22,080
just go back to their life they don't

2431
01:40:26,030 --> 01:40:24,239
want anything to do with the phenomenon

2432
01:40:28,189 --> 01:40:26,040
you know it's like and and we've had

2433
01:40:29,689 --> 01:40:28,199
many people say here use it I don't want

2434
01:40:31,490 --> 01:40:29,699
to credit I don't want anybody know it's

2435
01:40:33,229 --> 01:40:31,500
me and these are not these are these are

2436
01:40:34,189 --> 01:40:33,239
not hoaxers they have nothing to gain

2437
01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:34,199
from this

2438
01:40:38,030 --> 01:40:35,760
these are not people that are looking to

2439
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:38,040
profit off of anything this is this is

2440
01:40:42,590 --> 01:40:40,080
that particular individual in this case

2441
01:40:44,209 --> 01:40:42,600
so the photo came to us through Stan

2442
01:40:46,490 --> 01:40:44,219
Avery initially

2443
01:40:48,350 --> 01:40:46,500
um in Stan Avery the town plumber and

2444
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:48,360
like he's like he knows everybody and

2445
01:40:51,110 --> 01:40:49,440
everything and everybody tells them

2446
01:40:53,930 --> 01:40:51,120
they're Bigfoot stories tells him

2447
01:40:56,510 --> 01:40:53,940
they're big foot stories so

2448
01:40:59,090 --> 01:40:56,520
um we you know we got that photo from

2449
01:41:01,250 --> 01:40:59,100
him and I reached out to the guy and um

2450
01:41:02,990 --> 01:41:01,260
he's like yeah here you know here's a

2451
01:41:05,149 --> 01:41:03,000
couple of photos and I got a deer and

2452
01:41:06,590 --> 01:41:05,159
you know and I'm you know the other

2453
01:41:08,930 --> 01:41:06,600
thing too is I'm getting the original

2454
01:41:12,410 --> 01:41:08,940
photos from these people I'm not getting

2455
01:41:15,050 --> 01:41:12,420
a copy I'm not like I'm like don't email

2456
01:41:16,910 --> 01:41:15,060
it to me send me the the upload the

2457
01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:16,920
original files so on and so forth I want

2458
01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:18,239
the source I want to be able to look at

2459
01:41:21,709 --> 01:41:20,159
the metadata and I want to make sure

2460
01:41:23,930 --> 01:41:21,719
that it's not manipulated before I put

2461
01:41:26,689 --> 01:41:23,940
it in the film and um

2462
01:41:28,250 --> 01:41:26,699
and that one struck me

2463
01:41:30,890 --> 01:41:28,260
um pretty significantly because you can

2464
01:41:32,030 --> 01:41:30,900
see the hand is way longer than a

2465
01:41:33,770 --> 01:41:32,040
human's hand

2466
01:41:35,450 --> 01:41:33,780
and that's the thing with the Bigfoot is

2467
01:41:37,370 --> 01:41:35,460
their arms are way longer they go

2468
01:41:38,930 --> 01:41:37,380
sometimes they go past their knees and

2469
01:41:41,030 --> 01:41:38,940
you can see that you can see his fingers

2470
01:41:43,370 --> 01:41:41,040
curling up in that shot and then of

2471
01:41:45,169 --> 01:41:43,380
course just so there was a deer there at

2472
01:41:47,149 --> 01:41:45,179
some point I think it was within a week

2473
01:41:49,189 --> 01:41:47,159
or something well the grass and

2474
01:41:51,530 --> 01:41:49,199
everything is yeah is in the same

2475
01:41:52,570 --> 01:41:51,540
position because when you do the the the

2476
01:41:56,109 --> 01:41:52,580
the

2477
01:42:00,290 --> 01:41:56,119
Crossfade whatever yeah whatever

2478
01:42:03,050 --> 01:42:00,300
the dissolve the dissolve when you do

2479
01:42:08,330 --> 01:42:03,060
that dissolved that it's like what yeah

2480
01:42:11,390 --> 01:42:08,340
it is one of those moments because

2481
01:42:14,750 --> 01:42:11,400
um and every everybody listening to me

2482
01:42:17,750 --> 01:42:14,760
right now and listening to Brett if you

2483
01:42:22,129 --> 01:42:17,760
go and watch the film just for that just

2484
01:42:26,450 --> 01:42:22,139
for that because uh it is

2485
01:42:28,910 --> 01:42:26,460
um what's it's your brain needs to be on

2486
01:42:31,310 --> 01:42:28,920
Solid Ground And so when you do that

2487
01:42:35,270 --> 01:42:31,320
dissolve you realize that it's not

2488
01:42:38,689 --> 01:42:35,280
trickery it's not right and then because

2489
01:42:41,570 --> 01:42:38,699
the first shot that you do

2490
01:42:43,850 --> 01:42:41,580
is with Bigfoot right and you're looking

2491
01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:43,860
at well it could be anything kind of

2492
01:42:47,870 --> 01:42:46,080
right it could be anything or it could

2493
01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:47,880
be anything and it's kind of walking

2494
01:42:53,390 --> 01:42:51,119
leaning forwards pretty husky right you

2495
01:42:55,490 --> 01:42:53,400
see the head you can see there and then

2496
01:42:58,810 --> 01:42:55,500
you do the dissolve to the deer and

2497
01:43:02,689 --> 01:42:58,820
you're like oh crap oh oh

2498
01:43:05,450 --> 01:43:02,699
oh and that's uh that that was really

2499
01:43:07,550 --> 01:43:05,460
well done and and the way that you uh uh

2500
01:43:08,689 --> 01:43:07,560
presented that Brett it it scared the

2501
01:43:10,070 --> 01:43:08,699
crap out of me

2502
01:43:11,689 --> 01:43:10,080
yeah you know it's what's so funny

2503
01:43:13,129 --> 01:43:11,699
Jeremy is not a lot of people talk about

2504
01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:13,139
that shot for some reason and that's

2505
01:43:16,189 --> 01:43:14,639
surprising to me and so I'm glad you

2506
01:43:18,290 --> 01:43:16,199
brought it up because

2507
01:43:21,290 --> 01:43:18,300
um I think it's extraordinary

2508
01:43:24,109 --> 01:43:21,300
you know and I I pixel peep this stuff

2509
01:43:25,550 --> 01:43:24,119
man I I really look at it you know I

2510
01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:25,560
don't want to just say here's a photo

2511
01:43:29,689 --> 01:43:28,080
I'm gonna throw it in and that doesn't

2512
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:29,699
mean that there aren't hoaxes out there

2513
01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:30,960
and people hoaxing and these things

2514
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:33,119
happen and so on and so forth I mean

2515
01:43:36,770 --> 01:43:34,800
you know that's just the world that we

2516
01:43:38,270 --> 01:43:36,780
live in especially with AI now but you

2517
01:43:40,490 --> 01:43:38,280
know this photo was taken I think five

2518
01:43:43,609 --> 01:43:40,500
or six years ago

2519
01:43:50,270 --> 01:43:47,629
the reason why uh that dissolve thank

2520
01:43:52,129 --> 01:43:50,280
you for giving me that word by the way

2521
01:43:55,189 --> 01:43:52,139
the reason why that dissolve is so

2522
01:43:58,250 --> 01:43:55,199
important is because you see the deer we

2523
01:44:01,910 --> 01:43:58,260
know how big a deer is the deer is in

2524
01:44:05,390 --> 01:44:01,920
nearly the exact same spot that is

2525
01:44:08,209 --> 01:44:05,400
triggering the sensor on the trail cam

2526
01:44:10,370 --> 01:44:08,219
right to yeah to to take to snap an

2527
01:44:12,649 --> 01:44:10,380
image and you get everything in context

2528
01:44:15,830 --> 01:44:12,659
and you get the Bigfoot size you get

2529
01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:15,840
everything is there in that dissolve I

2530
01:44:21,050 --> 01:44:19,440
think that I I am shocked that more

2531
01:44:23,330 --> 01:44:21,060
people aren't talking to you about that

2532
01:44:25,490 --> 01:44:23,340
because I thought so much I mean I

2533
01:44:27,350 --> 01:44:25,500
jumped out of my chair yeah it's it's

2534
01:44:28,850 --> 01:44:27,360
remarkable and you know people say well

2535
01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:28,860
it could be a hoax could be a guy to

2536
01:44:31,910 --> 01:44:30,239
shoot well look you know you got to look

2537
01:44:33,169 --> 01:44:31,920
again it's like the Patterson game you

2538
01:44:34,669 --> 01:44:33,179
got to look at the logistics of things

2539
01:44:37,430 --> 01:44:34,679
it's like how many people do you know

2540
01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:37,440
that are six foot five six foot six tall

2541
01:44:41,390 --> 01:44:39,360
people unless they're on an NBA team

2542
01:44:42,590 --> 01:44:41,400
aren't really all that common they just

2543
01:44:44,090 --> 01:44:42,600
aren't

2544
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:44,100
um and then you've got to find a guy

2545
01:44:48,729 --> 01:44:47,280
who's willing to put on the suit and run

2546
01:44:51,649 --> 01:44:48,739
in front of the case there's work

2547
01:44:55,070 --> 01:44:51,659
involved you know what I mean

2548
01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:55,080
um and these aren't people that want any

2549
01:44:58,669 --> 01:44:56,880
attention they want to just live their

2550
01:44:59,930 --> 01:44:58,679
lives they live out in the country you

2551
01:45:02,030 --> 01:44:59,940
know they don't want to start something

2552
01:45:03,770 --> 01:45:02,040
they don't want an internet fad

2553
01:45:05,750 --> 01:45:03,780
whatever he's like I mean the guy that

2554
01:45:08,090 --> 01:45:05,760
gave me the photo he's like he's like

2555
01:45:09,770 --> 01:45:08,100
this is this is what it got I don't know

2556
01:45:12,050 --> 01:45:09,780
what it really is I don't know if I even

2557
01:45:14,270 --> 01:45:12,060
really believe in Bigfoot but but my

2558
01:45:15,649 --> 01:45:14,280
camera captured this and I have no way

2559
01:45:17,930 --> 01:45:15,659
of explaining this at all and I said

2560
01:45:19,970 --> 01:45:17,940
will you talk about on camera no no

2561
01:45:22,850 --> 01:45:19,980
don't need the publicity

2562
01:45:25,370 --> 01:45:22,860
you know and he's a straight shooter

2563
01:45:27,050 --> 01:45:25,380
he's like and I'm like man that was like

2564
01:45:30,229 --> 01:45:27,060
yeah what can I do for you thank you I

2565
01:45:32,330 --> 01:45:30,239
appreciate it no that was a gift no I I

2566
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:32,340
kind of want to talk about gifting uh

2567
01:45:38,030 --> 01:45:34,320
for a second

2568
01:45:40,970 --> 01:45:38,040
um and you brought up orbs earlier and I

2569
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:40,980
kind of want to bring that the only orb

2570
01:45:48,649 --> 01:45:44,639
I've ever seen like legit Mount Adams by

2571
01:45:55,970 --> 01:45:53,450
I still don't uh let's go there this is

2572
01:45:59,229 --> 01:45:55,980
what I saw okay

2573
01:46:02,870 --> 01:45:59,239
I didn't see a sphere

2574
01:46:06,590 --> 01:46:02,880
my orb was 2D

2575
01:46:10,490 --> 01:46:06,600
like a like a quarter whoa okay it was

2576
01:46:13,669 --> 01:46:10,500
flat and so it comes out from behind

2577
01:46:17,270 --> 01:46:13,679
it's about quarter mile away you know a

2578
01:46:18,350 --> 01:46:17,280
few hundred yards at night were Sky

2579
01:46:22,910 --> 01:46:18,360
watching

2580
01:46:25,850 --> 01:46:22,920
um I had maybe 75 friends with me

2581
01:46:27,229 --> 01:46:25,860
um it would Fade to Black uh event sure

2582
01:46:29,629 --> 01:46:27,239
okay

2583
01:46:32,090 --> 01:46:29,639
so anyway so we're Sky watching we got

2584
01:46:34,490 --> 01:46:32,100
our night vision and it's 11 o'clock and

2585
01:46:36,169 --> 01:46:34,500
you know and I just kind of come down

2586
01:46:39,770 --> 01:46:36,179
it's dark

2587
01:46:41,870 --> 01:46:39,780
and I sit on this chair at the end I

2588
01:46:45,050 --> 01:46:41,880
know that I've got like a hundred people

2589
01:46:48,350 --> 01:46:45,060
to my left but I'm at the end

2590
01:46:51,050 --> 01:46:48,360
and you know some Jimmy time and I sit

2591
01:46:53,450 --> 01:46:51,060
down in this chair in the dark and I

2592
01:46:56,229 --> 01:46:53,460
just see this little gray thing come out

2593
01:46:59,090 --> 01:46:56,239
Behind These trees and then come down

2594
01:47:04,370 --> 01:46:59,100
and then grow

2595
01:47:06,590 --> 01:47:04,380
to like 50 feet it's big but it's 2D and

2596
01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:06,600
it's gray and I thought I had something

2597
01:47:12,229 --> 01:47:08,960
in my eyes

2598
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:12,239
I go just like this I go wow that's kind

2599
01:47:19,609 --> 01:47:15,440
of weird yeah oh it's still there

2600
01:47:21,830 --> 01:47:19,619
right as I'm thinking that this lady

2601
01:47:25,729 --> 01:47:21,840
who's standing behind me with her kids

2602
01:47:29,810 --> 01:47:25,739
right right she goes is anybody looking

2603
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:31,370
going to turn around I'm going to say a

2604
01:47:36,950 --> 01:47:34,320
bad word you mean this [\h__\h] is real

2605
01:47:39,950 --> 01:47:36,960
right and and I and I turn on and I'm

2606
01:47:43,010 --> 01:47:39,960
looking again and everybody is you can

2607
01:47:45,410 --> 01:47:43,020
hear that right the the conversation in

2608
01:47:49,010 --> 01:47:45,420
the dark going on

2609
01:47:51,050 --> 01:47:49,020
Mount Adams Mount Adams Mount Adams and

2610
01:47:54,169 --> 01:47:51,060
that's where I saw the big Footprints

2611
01:47:55,970 --> 01:47:54,179
like the next day it's a hot bed it's a

2612
01:47:59,030 --> 01:47:55,980
hotbed man so Jill and I were up there

2613
01:48:00,890 --> 01:47:59,040
doing some some filming exploring and

2614
01:48:03,770 --> 01:48:00,900
she's like I'm watching this Red Orb

2615
01:48:05,090 --> 01:48:03,780
move through these trees you know and

2616
01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:05,100
and it's like I'm always trying to

2617
01:48:09,470 --> 01:48:07,199
debunk everything because that's what

2618
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:09,480
you have to do you have to do that yep

2619
01:48:12,890 --> 01:48:11,280
you know and and so I'm looking at going

2620
01:48:14,750 --> 01:48:12,900
ah I don't know that looks like looks

2621
01:48:17,450 --> 01:48:14,760
like the maybe the top like an airline

2622
01:48:18,410 --> 01:48:17,460
FAA light on top of a radio tower or

2623
01:48:20,090 --> 01:48:18,420
something like that

2624
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,100
and then it finally starts to move and

2625
01:48:24,410 --> 01:48:22,560
I'm like oh damn and so I I run back to

2626
01:48:26,209 --> 01:48:24,420
the car to get my camera and poof it's

2627
01:48:28,070 --> 01:48:26,219
gone just like that

2628
01:48:29,689 --> 01:48:28,080
they're you know and there's a lot of

2629
01:48:31,370 --> 01:48:29,699
people that say that these things are

2630
01:48:33,229 --> 01:48:31,380
tuned into us they're reading our

2631
01:48:35,570 --> 01:48:33,239
thoughts they know our every move you

2632
01:48:37,609 --> 01:48:35,580
know um I we've interviewed people who

2633
01:48:39,770 --> 01:48:37,619
have talked about orbs will be coming

2634
01:48:41,750 --> 01:48:39,780
towards them and as soon as that person

2635
01:48:43,370 --> 01:48:41,760
thinks to themselves I don't want you I

2636
01:48:45,229 --> 01:48:43,380
don't want to see you that orb backs off

2637
01:48:50,209 --> 01:48:45,239
and goes away

2638
01:48:53,990 --> 01:48:50,219
the next day after I saw the orb right

2639
01:48:56,209 --> 01:48:54,000
I was like I'm gonna debunk this I'm

2640
01:48:58,970 --> 01:48:56,219
trickery going yeah yeah

2641
01:49:00,890 --> 01:48:58,980
I'd jump on this motorcycle and I ride

2642
01:49:03,229 --> 01:49:00,900
all the way out to the back side of that

2643
01:49:08,030 --> 01:49:03,239
field and I'm looking for

2644
01:49:10,550 --> 01:49:08,040
an extension cord right that's some kind

2645
01:49:13,490 --> 01:49:10,560
of I'm thinking you know maybe there was

2646
01:49:16,990 --> 01:49:13,500
a sheet of mylar you know some kind of

2647
01:49:20,570 --> 01:49:17,000
rear projection because it was really

2648
01:49:23,030 --> 01:49:20,580
what I saw was everybody saw it yeah you

2649
01:49:26,510 --> 01:49:23,040
know and once I got out to that side of

2650
01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:26,520
the field and I realized that my depth

2651
01:49:33,530 --> 01:49:30,480
perception was off where I was thinking

2652
01:49:35,330 --> 01:49:33,540
it was a wall of trees right and I get

2653
01:49:38,930 --> 01:49:35,340
out there and I'm realizing they're

2654
01:49:41,090 --> 01:49:38,940
Spread Way apart there's nothing out and

2655
01:49:43,729 --> 01:49:41,100
I'm just wait a minute here

2656
01:49:45,709 --> 01:49:43,739
it's there's nothing out there's no way

2657
01:49:47,870 --> 01:49:45,719
to do and I'm looking back at where I

2658
01:49:49,850 --> 01:49:47,880
was sitting you know and I'm on this

2659
01:49:51,530 --> 01:49:49,860
motorcycle you know and I get off of it

2660
01:49:52,910 --> 01:49:51,540
and I'm kind of walking around and

2661
01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:52,920
looking

2662
01:50:00,410 --> 01:49:56,880
and I couldn't I was hoping Brett I

2663
01:50:03,050 --> 01:50:00,420
swear on all that is Holy I wanted to

2664
01:50:05,209 --> 01:50:03,060
find a cable yeah I wanted to see a

2665
01:50:07,790 --> 01:50:05,219
little Honda generator sitting down in

2666
01:50:10,490 --> 01:50:07,800
the ditch yeah right I wanted to find

2667
01:50:13,370 --> 01:50:10,500
Seth and I didn't

2668
01:50:15,530 --> 01:50:13,380
and that's I got back on the motor I'm

2669
01:50:19,729 --> 01:50:15,540
like oh crap

2670
01:50:23,450 --> 01:50:19,739
I saw my first orb you know my only or

2671
01:50:25,729 --> 01:50:23,460
it was dude it was 2D that's weird man

2672
01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:25,739
I've never heard of a 2d orb never

2673
01:50:31,370 --> 01:50:28,800
they're always 3D there's there's this

2674
01:50:33,890 --> 01:50:31,380
phenomenon called ball lightning that

2675
01:50:36,229 --> 01:50:33,900
that we think might be working in

2676
01:50:37,609 --> 01:50:36,239
conjunction with orbs they might be one

2677
01:50:39,709 --> 01:50:37,619
in the same that kind of a thing but

2678
01:50:41,330 --> 01:50:39,719
they're always spheres they're always I

2679
01:50:42,709 --> 01:50:41,340
know well no they're not always fears

2680
01:50:44,930 --> 01:50:42,719
but they're usually always fears yeah

2681
01:50:47,870 --> 01:50:44,940
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah right I

2682
01:50:52,430 --> 01:50:47,880
totally get it I and

2683
01:50:55,250 --> 01:50:52,440
um and the reason why I say it was 2D it

2684
01:50:58,430 --> 01:50:55,260
felt to me this is my memory I'm playing

2685
01:51:01,310 --> 01:50:58,440
off of it was just so Fantastical that

2686
01:51:03,590 --> 01:51:01,320
yeah it's it's it's kind of hard to

2687
01:51:05,510 --> 01:51:03,600
comprehend but when it came out from

2688
01:51:09,649 --> 01:51:05,520
behind the tree

2689
01:51:12,350 --> 01:51:09,659
it can't I can't think it you know a

2690
01:51:15,970 --> 01:51:12,360
little bit of this action and then came

2691
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:15,980
back yeah yeah there was something to it

2692
01:51:20,810 --> 01:51:18,960
that that it was it was definitely 2D

2693
01:51:23,510 --> 01:51:20,820
you know when you look at something and

2694
01:51:26,810 --> 01:51:23,520
it's flat there was nothing spherical to

2695
01:51:28,189 --> 01:51:26,820
it at all and it you know and it got

2696
01:51:31,090 --> 01:51:28,199
really big

2697
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:31,100
um I don't I know I sound nuts

2698
01:51:36,290 --> 01:51:34,080
you don't actually you know and you

2699
01:51:38,450 --> 01:51:36,300
actually reminded me of a story uh that

2700
01:51:40,250 --> 01:51:38,460
I'll tell real quick kind of a UFO type

2701
01:51:42,830 --> 01:51:40,260
story and maybe there's a correlation

2702
01:51:44,629 --> 01:51:42,840
here I don't know but um so Jill and I

2703
01:51:46,669 --> 01:51:44,639
were down at phenomicon

2704
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,679
um in 2020

2705
01:51:51,729 --> 01:51:48,719
2020 I guess it was maybe I don't know

2706
01:51:54,290 --> 01:51:51,739
2021 I can't keep my year straight 2021

2707
01:51:57,050 --> 01:51:54,300
phenomicon is down in Vernal Utah where

2708
01:51:58,370 --> 01:51:57,060
Skinwalker Ranch is okay so which you

2709
01:52:00,530 --> 01:51:58,380
know you talk about everybody having a

2710
01:52:02,870 --> 01:52:00,540
story man that whole valley everybody's

2711
01:52:04,669 --> 01:52:02,880
got a story so we're out about five

2712
01:52:07,010 --> 01:52:04,679
miles away from

2713
01:52:08,990 --> 01:52:07,020
um the Colorado border near the town of

2714
01:52:11,870 --> 01:52:09,000
small town of dinosaur which is Dinosaur

2715
01:52:13,729 --> 01:52:11,880
National Monument and um this is about

2716
01:52:15,890 --> 01:52:13,739
four hours before we interviewed Daryl

2717
01:52:17,930 --> 01:52:15,900
Wilson who's at the end of our film and

2718
01:52:20,450 --> 01:52:17,940
we're killing some time and we love

2719
01:52:22,310 --> 01:52:20,460
going down these old roads and and just

2720
01:52:24,050 --> 01:52:22,320
kind of exploring so we go down this old

2721
01:52:27,050 --> 01:52:24,060
dusty road where there's this kind of

2722
01:52:28,729 --> 01:52:27,060
ATV area campus campsite area and it's

2723
01:52:29,930 --> 01:52:28,739
Picture Perfect out there's not a cloud

2724
01:52:32,870 --> 01:52:29,940
in the sky right there's some

2725
01:52:34,250 --> 01:52:32,880
thunderheads like way far north that you

2726
01:52:36,709 --> 01:52:34,260
can see out there but they're I mean

2727
01:52:39,890 --> 01:52:36,719
there may be 7 500 miles away

2728
01:52:41,450 --> 01:52:39,900
and we park we get out of the car and I

2729
01:52:43,729 --> 01:52:41,460
remember my friend

2730
01:52:45,530 --> 01:52:43,739
um Chris telling me this story about a

2731
01:52:46,850 --> 01:52:45,540
guy that he knew that had been abducted

2732
01:52:50,629 --> 01:52:46,860
as a Boy Scout

2733
01:52:52,490 --> 01:52:50,639
and the ET said if you ever need us just

2734
01:52:54,890 --> 01:52:52,500
say show yourselves and we'll

2735
01:52:57,470 --> 01:52:54,900
materialize you know like we'll unveil

2736
01:52:59,330 --> 01:52:57,480
all right you know like we'll we'll you

2737
01:53:00,229 --> 01:52:59,340
know we'll take off the uh the cloaking

2738
01:53:02,030 --> 01:53:00,239
device

2739
01:53:03,410 --> 01:53:02,040
and I was like I don't know why that

2740
01:53:05,209 --> 01:53:03,420
entered in my head but it did but again

2741
01:53:08,090 --> 01:53:05,219
middle of the afternoon

2742
01:53:12,350 --> 01:53:08,100
75 degrees perfect a little bit of a

2743
01:53:15,649 --> 01:53:12,360
breeze and um and I say uh I yell at the

2744
01:53:18,470 --> 01:53:15,659
top of my lungs show yourselves I don't

2745
01:53:20,510 --> 01:53:18,480
know you didn't yeah sorry I did all

2746
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:20,520
right I hear you man I'm in Utah I mean

2747
01:53:24,050 --> 01:53:22,320
if there's ever a time and place to do

2748
01:53:26,030 --> 01:53:24,060
it it's right now of course I should

2749
01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:26,040
have done it at night but so I say this

2750
01:53:30,770 --> 01:53:27,840
and then Jill's wandering amongst the

2751
01:53:32,870 --> 01:53:30,780
like the trees and the you know cactuses

2752
01:53:35,149 --> 01:53:32,880
and stuff like that and I'm standing

2753
01:53:37,070 --> 01:53:35,159
here I'm probably 300 yards away from

2754
01:53:40,189 --> 01:53:37,080
our vehicle with the car with the camera

2755
01:53:41,570 --> 01:53:40,199
and drone and whatnot I'm naked like I

2756
01:53:44,330 --> 01:53:41,580
don't even have my phone with me right

2757
01:53:46,910 --> 01:53:44,340
and immediately within 30 seconds no

2758
01:53:51,530 --> 01:53:46,920
exaggeration a cloud forms right

2759
01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:51,540
over us and the cloud is rectangular

2760
01:53:56,030 --> 01:53:54,000
and I'm like Jill Jill are you watching

2761
01:53:59,390 --> 01:53:56,040
this are you watching it goes

2762
01:54:01,010 --> 01:53:59,400
in forms and she's like uh yeah so she

2763
01:54:02,810 --> 01:54:01,020
takes out her phone and tries to get

2764
01:54:04,370 --> 01:54:02,820
pictures of it so we we have video some

2765
01:54:07,250 --> 01:54:04,380
video of this

2766
01:54:09,410 --> 01:54:07,260
and maybe 15 20 seconds later I was like

2767
01:54:11,570 --> 01:54:09,420
do you see that do you see that and out

2768
01:54:14,450 --> 01:54:11,580
of the middle of this cloud

2769
01:54:16,129 --> 01:54:14,460
is this is a hold up your quarter there

2770
01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:16,139
real quick

2771
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:18,000
if you hold up your quarter and you flip

2772
01:54:21,050 --> 01:54:18,960
it

2773
01:54:24,229 --> 01:54:21,060
like that that's exactly what was coming

2774
01:54:26,870 --> 01:54:24,239
out of this Cloud it was yes and it was

2775
01:54:28,430 --> 01:54:26,880
catching light it looked like a hubcap

2776
01:54:30,109 --> 01:54:28,440
it was weird it looked like a falling

2777
01:54:31,850 --> 01:54:30,119
quarter a hubcap or something like that

2778
01:54:33,709 --> 01:54:31,860
but it was spinning slow like a high

2779
01:54:35,570 --> 01:54:33,719
plate or something like a pie plate

2780
01:54:37,310 --> 01:54:35,580
exactly you could tell that it wasn't

2781
01:54:38,510 --> 01:54:37,320
all that big but it came right out of

2782
01:54:40,370 --> 01:54:38,520
the cloud

2783
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:40,380
and we're looking at these mountains

2784
01:54:45,410 --> 01:54:42,960
this mountain range that's probably I

2785
01:54:47,870 --> 01:54:45,420
don't know 2500 to 3000 feet and I'm

2786
01:54:50,450 --> 01:54:47,880
watching this thing just drop drop drop

2787
01:54:51,649 --> 01:54:50,460
drop and it lands on the top of the

2788
01:54:54,770 --> 01:54:51,659
mountain

2789
01:54:58,250 --> 01:54:54,780
like behind a tree so I'm a drone pilot

2790
01:54:59,990 --> 01:54:58,260
I run back as fast as I can and I grab

2791
01:55:01,129 --> 01:55:00,000
my drone I go I'm going up there I'm

2792
01:55:02,209 --> 01:55:01,139
going to find out what the heck that

2793
01:55:06,350 --> 01:55:02,219
thing was

2794
01:55:08,410 --> 01:55:06,360
so I uh fluid and altitude I wasn't

2795
01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:08,420
supposed to I'm just gonna leave it that

2796
01:55:13,669 --> 01:55:11,040
there are laws

2797
01:55:15,410 --> 01:55:13,679
um and I spent as fast as I could be

2798
01:55:16,790 --> 01:55:15,420
lined to that exact spot it was

2799
01:55:18,169 --> 01:55:16,800
ingrained in my head I still see it to

2800
01:55:19,550 --> 01:55:18,179
this day you see the tree you see the

2801
01:55:21,109 --> 01:55:19,560
rocks and I'm like I'm gonna go find out

2802
01:55:22,970 --> 01:55:21,119
what the heck that was

2803
01:55:24,890 --> 01:55:22,980
and as I'm going there about halfway

2804
01:55:26,330 --> 01:55:24,900
there I'm about a mile away which is

2805
01:55:28,490 --> 01:55:26,340
quite a ways with a drone I've got about

2806
01:55:31,669 --> 01:55:28,500
42 minutes on my battery

2807
01:55:33,290 --> 01:55:31,679
and my sensors are going wild in clear

2808
01:55:34,430 --> 01:55:33,300
air they're going you're about to hit

2809
01:55:36,709 --> 01:55:34,440
something you're going to hit something

2810
01:55:38,689 --> 01:55:36,719
you need to turn around you're you know

2811
01:55:40,250 --> 01:55:38,699
so they've got these sensors on these

2812
01:55:42,169 --> 01:55:40,260
drones that show that you're five six

2813
01:55:43,609 --> 01:55:42,179
feet away from slamming into a wall or a

2814
01:55:45,709 --> 01:55:43,619
tree or a house or something like that

2815
01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:45,719
and they're going bonkers

2816
01:55:49,370 --> 01:55:47,280
and this was a brand new drone and I'm

2817
01:55:50,930 --> 01:55:49,380
like um I don't know what's going on but

2818
01:55:53,390 --> 01:55:50,940
I've never seen anything like this

2819
01:55:54,709 --> 01:55:53,400
before I know it's brand new but the

2820
01:55:56,330 --> 01:55:54,719
sensors are indicating that there's

2821
01:55:58,490 --> 01:55:56,340
something that I'm about to collide with

2822
01:56:01,669 --> 01:55:58,500
in clean open air

2823
01:56:03,109 --> 01:56:01,679
so I came back landed the Drone and we

2824
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:03,119
still to this day have no explanation

2825
01:56:07,850 --> 01:56:05,520
for that but your story that reminded me

2826
01:56:09,770 --> 01:56:07,860
of this long story of this thing that

2827
01:56:11,030 --> 01:56:09,780
was like to me that was like oh yeah

2828
01:56:16,330 --> 01:56:11,040
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

2829
01:56:19,189 --> 01:56:16,340
I don't know yeah wow so uh

2830
01:56:22,370 --> 01:56:19,199
when you hear

2831
01:56:25,729 --> 01:56:22,380
um uh you know Skinwalker Ranch right

2832
01:56:28,790 --> 01:56:25,739
and and I love the new uh the the new

2833
01:56:30,109 --> 01:56:28,800
season oh yeah it's uh it's breaking off

2834
01:56:32,870 --> 01:56:30,119
right now

2835
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:32,880
um but the same complaints you know up

2836
01:56:39,470 --> 01:56:37,199
there you know GPS going wacky uh drones

2837
01:56:41,930 --> 01:56:39,480
not behaving properly helicopter

2838
01:56:45,350 --> 01:56:41,940
whatever yeah there there's something

2839
01:56:47,990 --> 01:56:45,360
going on in that area I can't I can't

2840
01:56:50,270 --> 01:56:48,000
quite put my finger on it but again I

2841
01:56:53,750 --> 01:56:50,280
don't know if we're we're capable of

2842
01:56:56,270 --> 01:56:53,760
understanding no not not yet not yet

2843
01:56:57,410 --> 01:56:56,280
we're we're learning a lot and and I

2844
01:56:59,090 --> 01:56:57,420
think there are people out there that

2845
01:57:00,709 --> 01:56:59,100
have a complete and total under standing

2846
01:57:02,330 --> 01:57:00,719
of this stuff

2847
01:57:04,729 --> 01:57:02,340
um well that's not entirely true I mean

2848
01:57:06,590 --> 01:57:04,739
not everybody not anybody has a total

2849
01:57:10,550 --> 01:57:06,600
understanding of everything but

2850
01:57:13,070 --> 01:57:10,560
but far beyond what US normal normal

2851
01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:13,080
people understand you know anybody

2852
01:57:20,990 --> 01:57:16,800
that's got these retrieved crashed UFOs

2853
01:57:23,750 --> 01:57:21,000
all you know that's next that's next uh

2854
01:57:25,790 --> 01:57:23,760
when uh when are you gonna wrap up uh

2855
01:57:30,290 --> 01:57:25,800
have you all the principal photograph

2856
01:57:32,689 --> 01:57:30,300
photography done uh for part two yeah so

2857
01:57:34,609 --> 01:57:32,699
part two is we're gonna do a world

2858
01:57:36,649 --> 01:57:34,619
premiere of the sequel at phenomicon

2859
01:57:38,570 --> 01:57:36,659
this year in Vernal Utah which is

2860
01:57:40,310 --> 01:57:38,580
running from the 6th through the 9th of

2861
01:57:41,870 --> 01:57:40,320
September um I'm not affiliated with

2862
01:57:43,010 --> 01:57:41,880
them at all I just I just want to

2863
01:57:44,990 --> 01:57:43,020
advertise the fact that we're going to

2864
01:57:46,430 --> 01:57:45,000
be screening the movie there

2865
01:57:49,129 --> 01:57:46,440
um we actually have special guest

2866
01:57:51,530 --> 01:57:49,139
appearances by Travis Taylor and uh Eric

2867
01:57:52,729 --> 01:57:51,540
Bard uh which is really cool to get them

2868
01:57:55,129 --> 01:57:52,739
involved

2869
01:57:56,149 --> 01:57:55,139
um just just small sequences so we'll be

2870
01:57:58,550 --> 01:57:56,159
doing that in September and then the

2871
01:57:59,870 --> 01:57:58,560
movie will be available in October

2872
01:58:00,410 --> 01:57:59,880
and then

2873
01:58:02,450 --> 01:58:00,420
um

2874
01:58:05,149 --> 01:58:02,460
a special announcement tonight I didn't

2875
01:58:07,189 --> 01:58:05,159
even tell you this earlier but um we are

2876
01:58:09,470 --> 01:58:07,199
gearing up to do

2877
01:58:11,750 --> 01:58:09,480
the voices in the wilderness documentary

2878
01:58:12,830 --> 01:58:11,760
about Ron moorhead's experiences at the

2879
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:12,840
Sierra Camp

2880
01:58:17,629 --> 01:58:15,360
so we're out there fundraising

2881
01:58:20,030 --> 01:58:17,639
um you know putting the finances

2882
01:58:22,609 --> 01:58:20,040
together to go out and do take basically

2883
01:58:25,629 --> 01:58:22,619
take that book and do the documentary of

2884
01:58:28,010 --> 01:58:25,639
it to tell Ron's story properly

2885
01:58:31,250 --> 01:58:28,020
bigfootdoc.com is that the easy way to

2886
01:58:34,070 --> 01:58:31,260
do it that's it yep okay is that or

2887
01:58:36,589 --> 01:58:34,080
Amazon or you know you can get a follow

2888
01:58:38,089 --> 01:58:36,599
us on Facebook you know and we read

2889
01:58:41,990 --> 01:58:38,099
every message we try and get back to

2890
01:58:44,870 --> 01:58:42,000
people we love hearing from folks

2891
01:58:45,850 --> 01:58:44,880
yeah we've got that up uh in in the chat

2892
01:58:49,370 --> 01:58:45,860
now

2893
01:58:53,209 --> 01:58:49,380
what what a great we've left way too

2894
01:58:55,370 --> 01:58:53,219
much on the table so I I just wanted to

2895
01:58:59,149 --> 01:58:55,380
invite you back let's do it as soon as

2896
01:59:01,370 --> 01:58:59,159
we can and then uh September is going to

2897
01:59:03,490 --> 01:59:01,380
be up on us here pretty quick yeah yeah

2898
01:59:08,450 --> 01:59:03,500
hard to believe

2899
01:59:09,189 --> 01:59:08,460
July's next July August September it's

2900
01:59:11,330 --> 01:59:09,199
crazy

2901
01:59:14,089 --> 01:59:11,340
you're gonna have it done and finished

2902
01:59:16,669 --> 01:59:14,099
and wrapped and delivered two and a half

2903
01:59:18,649 --> 01:59:16,679
months yes we've already done a preview

2904
01:59:19,910 --> 01:59:18,659
screening of it a work in progress

2905
01:59:22,490 --> 01:59:19,920
screening up in Forks Washington

2906
01:59:26,209 --> 01:59:22,500
Memorial Day weekend

2907
01:59:28,129 --> 01:59:26,219
um it was about 95 finished but

2908
01:59:30,530 --> 01:59:28,139
um yeah I'm just putting final touches

2909
01:59:33,709 --> 01:59:30,540
on it and um

2910
01:59:35,870 --> 01:59:33,719
it's been a lot of work but man I I am

2911
01:59:37,250 --> 01:59:35,880
very very excited about this film I

2912
01:59:39,830 --> 01:59:37,260
think it's going to make some heads spin

2913
01:59:42,470 --> 01:59:39,840
I think it's the the conversation Jimmy

2914
01:59:45,530 --> 01:59:42,480
really needs to be about both UFOs and

2915
01:59:47,149 --> 01:59:45,540
Bigfoot and it's not and the truth is is

2916
01:59:48,050 --> 01:59:47,159
you know people say that that we may

2917
01:59:49,970 --> 01:59:48,060
have

2918
01:59:51,770 --> 01:59:49,980
intelligent life in the universe that

2919
01:59:53,330 --> 01:59:51,780
might be our cousins well guess what

2920
01:59:56,330 --> 01:59:53,340
we've got a brother and sister living in

2921
01:59:59,330 --> 01:59:56,340
the woods yeah we certainly do let me

2922
02:00:01,189 --> 01:59:59,340
know if you need uh I know I know I know

2923
02:00:04,609 --> 02:00:01,199
somebody that does pretty good narration

2924
02:00:07,550 --> 02:00:04,619
yeah I'll keep you in mind for them I'll

2925
02:00:09,649 --> 02:00:07,560
keep them in mind right thank you so

2926
02:00:13,250 --> 02:00:09,659
much and I look forward to our next

2927
02:00:15,530 --> 02:00:13,260
conversation and of course uh part two

2928
02:00:17,810 --> 02:00:15,540
yes me too thank you so much Jimmy

2929
02:00:19,729 --> 02:00:17,820
really appreciate it great show thank

2930
02:00:22,910 --> 02:00:19,739
you so much my brother all right take

2931
02:00:27,070 --> 02:00:22,920
care my friend perfect night tonight and

2932
02:00:29,810 --> 02:00:27,080
now it is Bigfoot doc doc

2933
02:00:33,709 --> 02:00:29,820
bigfootdoc.com we've got it right up

2934
02:00:36,830 --> 02:00:33,719
there in uh the chat and of course it's

2935
02:00:39,229 --> 02:00:36,840
over on the website and in our social

2936
02:00:40,490 --> 02:00:39,239
media I want to remind everybody what's

2937
02:00:43,729 --> 02:00:40,500
going on tomorrow night tomorrow night

2938
02:00:47,450 --> 02:00:43,739
Mark O'Connell is with us and we will be

2939
02:00:50,570 --> 02:00:47,460
discussing The Life and Times of Dr J

2940
02:00:52,790 --> 02:00:50,580
Allen heineck Marco Connell is a

2941
02:00:55,970 --> 02:00:52,800
screenwriter too as well and he's done

2942
02:00:57,350 --> 02:00:55,980
uh a bunch of Star Trek episodes and

2943
02:01:00,470 --> 02:00:57,360
we'll be talking about some of that too

2944
02:01:02,870 --> 02:01:00,480
as well and those connections all of

2945
02:01:05,149 --> 02:01:02,880
that tomorrow night on Fade to Black I

2946
02:01:08,390 --> 02:01:05,159
want to thank Brett eichenberger and

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everybody go and check out the movie I

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was watching the comments okay I was

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watching everybody

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well there'll be a test tomorrow we'll

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see who is going to go and what is it a

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flashy Beauty it's an amazing film all

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right all right whoo man what a great

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show tonight and uh it's all very simple

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to say and do fate the black is produced

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by Hilton J Palm Renee Newman and

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Michelle fried thank you to Dennis and

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Kevin webmaster is through the geek

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spaceboymusic.com Fade to Black is

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produced by kjcr for the game changer

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game changer Network I'm Yours Jimmy

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church and 2L tomorrow night with Marco

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Connell I want you to be safe

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